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ezilja.fallut
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Should this be updated/removed?

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In some cases, the scambaiter claims to have had the scammers send them money with a ploy similar to the original flim flam. This is known informally as cash baiting. According to Berry as documented in some of his successful cash baits, the proceeds of such reverse scams were given to a local charity


I don't remember seeing discussions like this.
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Ari
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There were discussions about cashbaiting several years ago. It has since been outlawed on the board.
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Baiting for cash:- PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
Please note: Since November 4th [2004] a very large number of members have been polled over the following statement, and over 98% of the members are in favour of this new rule. This is NOT a new rule introduced solely by the will of the Admin or Moderators.

Due to the possible legal implications involved, but more importantly because the possible dangers posed to baiters, please note that the administrators and moderators of 419eater.com no longer permit any discussion relating to cash baits or methods of extracting money from scammers on this board. If you feel the need to discuss such matters then please do so either by this board's Private Messaging system or by email.

Note any public posts relating to cash baits, other methods relating to the extraction of money from scammers will be immediately locked or deleted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Then the Wiki page should be changed. Its the second thing up if you google 419eater.com. Meaning anyone looking for info about the site sees that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cash baiting is not something that is condoned by 419Eater.

The quote posted by Special K, says it all really.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cash baiting was denounced years ago.

The last I knew, the Eater Wiki had been locked to prevent defacing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think the OP was referencing this page... Click

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, the same one I was thinking of Frank. Very Happy

It was locked down a few years ago after some nitwitted trolls started plinking around with it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

And the paragraph goes on to state:

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The moderators of the 419 Eater site, as well as an overwhelming majority of the members, have taken a stand against cash baiting or its discussion on the site's forums.[1] Berry has added a disclaimer to baits where he tried to receive money, pointing out that not only is cash baiting illegal, but the scammers are criminals, sometimes violent criminals, and stealing money from them can be dangerous as the scammers may attempt to uncover and pursue the baiter.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Damn! I knew I should have read the whole thing!

Edit: History is history, it probably would be wrong to change it. Revisionist history sucks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Tsnerd wrote:
nitwitted trolls
Is there any other kind?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Posts attempting to turn this thread into a debate about cash baiting have been removed.
That subject is well documented elsewhere.

This thread is about the Wiki entry.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think the Wiki entry does state that it is no longer condoned.

The page does not appear to be locked. Usually if it is the page has a header stating it is locked and why. So it could be edited if the position on cash baiting is not clear enough, on the Wiki I mean, it is perfectly clear over here.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Eh, my post was removed? Surprised

Let's rephrase its contents then. Wikipedia relies on printed sources and publications. Shiver's Greetings in Jesus Name is probably the best-known book about scambaiting. However, due to its age, it does feature several stunts that are no longer condoned by the community.

Two examples: The Tale of The Painted Breast still remains on the third place on the Letters Archive list. A Stunt Too Far is near the end of Shiver's list, with fake IDs and lad education.

My point: These should feature "an old bait" and "do not try this at home" stamps. Times and methods have changed, but many visitors are still reading these things without any idea how harmful they can be. Hosting these baits on Eater's featured section gives them an extra sense of credibility.

Disclaimers: I'm not bashing Shiver, the baits are funny, I don't condone cash-baiting and I'm not into historical revisionism either.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

callum wrote:
Tsnerd wrote:
nitwitted trolls
Is there any other kind?


<a href="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9511801/detail.html" target="blank">Nope.....</a>

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