SmartFeedSmartFeed          

Porsche Hangout


WELCOME - YOU ARE CURRENTLY VIEWING 419EATER AS A GUEST

By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics and access other forums reserved for members. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today by clicking here.

ScamWarners.com - Internet Anti-Fraud Center - now open!


 Puppies in Boise and what to do next

View next topic
View previous topic
 
Post new topicThis topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
Author Message
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I started out baiting someone who had puppies to give away. Just pay for shipping. Yeah, right.

And so over the course of time, I wound up talking to 3 people. There was a mule colleting money in boise, and two lads who didn't speak very good English. I know there were 2 because I would send email and get a reply, and then get another reply to the same email, worded differently.
There was no telling in advance whether you'd get lad1, lad2, or Lynda (the mule in Boise).

At any rate, to keep things interesting, I started up a second bait under a different alias with the same target. I knew Lynda was in Boise from bait 1, so I decided to locate bait 2 in Garden City, a town just a few miles away from Lynda in Boise. I figured it would be harder for Lynda to avoid contact with someone so close

Both baits decided to drop money orders off at Lynda's house. Neither one did, of course, since they are fictional, but they SAID they did. One of them said "there were some suspicious people loitering around the front yard" and after Lynda said neither money order arrived, we concluded they must have been stolen.

I had Lynda meet one of the baits at the Wal-mart where the money order was "purchased" but didnt' make the meeting due to a flat tire. She said she waited a half hour. Then she was supposed to meet at a motel, but that didn't pan out, so a second meeting at Wal-mart, but we failed to hook up again.

Meanwhile the other bait "discovered" a wal-mart Lost Money order claim form (I rigged up off something I found on the 'net, not real) and sent it to her with a k7.net fax return number. It included details of the lost money order, etc.

Now, along about this time, moderator sheboppe got involved, and had a talk with Lynda, explaining to her what was going on and that she should stop. And then we waited to see what would happen. Nothing happend, Lynda kept things going just like she had been. So I sent her the OTHER baiter's money-order claim form, and eventually got that one returned to me too.

Now here's the deal; both of the baiters are "waiting for Wal-mart's investigation" which takes from 24-48 hrs (I said) and then we are free to start up all over again. Or not.

What I'm wondering, and I've talked about this with redshoes my mentor, is how to treat Lynda. On one hand, she seems like an ITP, but on the other hand, I have to believe she knows what she is doing, and I'm tempted to treat her just like one of the lads as far as making life as inconvenient for her as possible.

On the one hand, I could just drop the whole thing.

OR.. well I was thinking that since Wal-mart now has two claim forms from different people's money orders, both signed by the same recipient, it could get somewhat complicated. They might decide to have an investigation There might be more trips to the wal-mart to discuss the lost money orders.

Lynda seems like she's in a place where she'll take orders from whoever is giving them, whether that's the scammer in Nigeria, or the bait.

I just can't decide what to do next.

Any ideas?


PS: Thanks for the link to the receipt maker, did the trick to validate the lost money orders!
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Please PM the details of your baits to me. Lynda has told me that she is no longer in contact with the scammer (yeah right) and that she isn't working with or for him.

I really need those details, and any other information that you can provide. This lady knows exactly what she is doing. Me giving her a heads up was ignored even though she is trying to convince me that she has stopped being a mule.

Thanks. Very Happy

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

After sheboppe talked with the mule again, it became apparent that she knows what she is doing and is NOT an ITP, so ..

Game on!
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Yes, please keep it going. After I laid everything out for her again, her reply to me was this:

Quote:
I think I'm beginning to understand all this stuff. You are shedding more light on this scam. Can we meet? I did like to see you.


As things roll forward, I'll find out if she is BS'ing me.

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
jreh
Master Baiter


Joined: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 197
Location: Iqaluit, Nunavut (F'king Cold Up Here!)


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I always ask them if they know of any good recipes that I can use when cooking their dogs. I also ask them approximately how many people I can feed at a meal with a dog the size of which they are selling. Twisted Evil

_________________
You have surely suceeded in creating enemity between i and my lawyer. Thanks very much for that. You called me all sorts of name. Even Scammer? There is no problem - <B>Dr. Randolf Travis</B>
if you are no longer intrested you are free to indicate your say so than dealing drealing. - <B>George Chuks</B>
we have agreed to shit your payment to our New York subregional hd for your payment - <B>James Brown<B>
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ That would be very counterproductive with this mule. She is not a lad that doesn't understand what some of what we say. She is in American, and she is in the USA.

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
A Skinner
Texas Lad-Saw Massacre


Joined: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3680
Location: Texas, USA


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I usually run US mules all over the place like you did with the WalMart meetings. Then they are scolded severely. I have had a few of them thank me and promise never to do it again.

Good Luck, and keep us posted.

_________________
Safari Safari Safari Mortar x 25
Closed lad accounts X ? Nurse Nastys Audi TT x3 Purple Flower
Sand Timer x2 Easter Egg 2012 Nigeria Benin United Kingdom Ghana
SINCE YOU MADE ME TO GIVE MY CAR AWAY AND ALL THE DISAPOINTMENTS YOU GAVE TO ME,WHICH MADE ME TO STOP CONTACTING YOU. PLEASE DO NOT INVOLVE ME WITH ANYTHING YOU ARE DOING WITH ANYBODY, PLEASE DONT INVOLVE ME.I DONT WANT ANYTHING THAT WILL JEOPARDIZE MY IMAGE IN THIS COUNTRY.I AM A HUMANITARIAN LAWYER.

infact am getting tired with all this speculation in this transaction, honestly if i had known that this is the kind of person you are i would not have contacted for an assistance

Urgent??? Impotent massage

* Help Keep Eater Running - Click here to donate
View user's profileSend private messageSkype Name
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I thought about the dog eating angle but decided it would be a more interesting bait if I played it straight.
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

With this one, yes. Please continue to forward to me her emails in your baits. I want to see if she really is beginning to understand what she is involved in or if she is just trying to play me.

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So an investigation is under way now.

MarXXX wrote:

You know, I just got a call from Wal-Mart. They said something about an investigation, and the word fraud came up, and I"m all stressed about it because it sounds like I'm not going to get my money back and there's this investigator that's going to call me and I don't know what's going on.
Something about two money orders that were lost at the same time and you were involved in both of them?

I don't know. I'm worried.

I'll let you know if I hear any more from them.
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Staying tuned. Very Happy

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No replies to my recent email so I tried one more poke tonight and then will let it rest for a bit:

MarXXX wrote:

I had the inspector call me just now.

His name is MarshXXX WrigXXX He said that since they had two lost money orders from the same location at the same time, he would have to verify your identity. They can do that one of two ways:

1. He can have an in person interview with you, either at the Wal-Mart or at your home
2. You can send in a photo of you holding their ID form that he will send to me.

He said that if you don't do one or the other, he will extend the investigation and wasn't clear what would happen next. I got the impression that they were not going to drop it.

Which of these would you be able to do?
View user's profileSend private message
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

She's filled in the ID-10T identification form and sent a picture.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1166631#1166631

Now we can inform her that the cash will be refunded to her ... in Pocatello, ID, just a 233 mile trip, one way.


Good thing they are going to reimburse for gas when she gets there....

_________________
Safari Lynda Boise to Pocatello

I just wanna know the status of the money order.
I will be awaiting for your email today.. You are damn too aggressive.
Maybe u think I'm a scammer. That's bad.
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is a guy holding the sign. Look at the size and shape of the fingers, and the facial features. If that is a woman, then she is one of the ugliest and manliest women that I have ever seen. puke

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
redshoes17
Elite Baiter


Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1731


PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I am also staying tuned.

_________________
United Kingdom
Safari Willy Accra to Abuja to Maiduguri
Safari Floyd Lagos to Abeche with reaper
Safari Dan Benin City to Lagos
Safari ARK Tamale to Kumasi
star Hello Kitty! Mortar x41
I don't need you alone for sex. w1l13

i was ashamed this money money was not in the system when we got there to cash it,it made me and my family lawyer look like little children Godwin

'because no one want your progress not every one want your goat to give birth to twins as the man who see tomorrow told me when i visit him in the shrine Godwin

i was rubbed by rubber last friday, they collectted all my money and my phones.
View user's profileSend private message
ParaNoid
** REMEMBERED **


Joined: 12 Sep 2006
Posts: 5123
Location: Looking for Steward.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Do you think a tatoo would improve things?

That "woman" is at least as bad as I would look as a woman... Shocked

So the female mule is not female, but is part mule. The pic would make a good avatar... Laughing

_________________
Gold Coins here

pony pony Closed lad accounts Goat Goat Goat Goat Sand Timer Easter Egg Easter 2015
Mortar x 4 <b>Looking for a Mentor? Click here</b>

"If I get mad at you, please just understand me. I am just being ParaNoid because I love you so much." - unknown

Visit www.scamwarners.com
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's her drivers license for comparison. She's pretty manly looking, I'll admit that.

Mod edit: Link snipped - please do not post ID's of non-lads - SB

_________________
Safari Lynda Boise to Pocatello

I just wanna know the status of the money order.
I will be awaiting for your email today.. You are damn too aggressive.
Maybe u think I'm a scammer. That's bad.
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ You have a PM. I removed the links because we don't post ID's of non-lads. If you want to post her pictures, I explained in PM how safely to do that. Smile

Also, there is no need to post the same picture in two different forums. Post it in only one forum like Pictures, and post a link to it here.

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Renovator
Not quite a Newb


Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 60


PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, as luck would have it, the mule is going to have to fill out another form. This time she has to describe the merchandise, where it is, when it will ship,etc.

She's going to have to get very creative! It'll be an exercise for her for sure.

And since there are two lost money orders, she'll have to do it twice.

I've posted the claim form pdf here at google docs:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F.3db27ed3-9e05-4442-9f28-8b91cfb32831&hl=en

_________________
Safari Lynda Boise to Pocatello

I just wanna know the status of the money order.
I will be awaiting for your email today.. You are damn too aggressive.
Maybe u think I'm a scammer. That's bad.
View user's profileSend private message
sheboppe
The Sparkly Member


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States


PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We have two separate threads going on this bait - this one, and the one in Pictures and Video.

We don't need two threads, so I am going to lock this one, and leave it here for reference.

_________________
| <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135992> Official Eater T-Shirts</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81028> Premium Membership</a> | ScamWarners | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5413> Forum Rules</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51> Baiting Tutorials</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118738> Baiting Help</a> | <a href=http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137846> FAQs</a> |

star pony pony pony Pretty Rose Pretty Rose Mortar x22
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Display posts from previous:      
Post new topicThis topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.


 Jump to:   



View next topic
View previous topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



** Find out information about your IP address **


All Content © 2003 - 419Eater.com
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group :S5: FI Theme :: All times are GMT