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jimbob
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.betta-fyl.com/index.html

Got an email asking me all sorts of dodgy info and this website was plastered all over it. They were asking for a donation etc.

Can anyone take a look and try and get it zapped if it is dodgy.

Cheers! Laughing
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Newdonym
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Certainly looks pretty dodgy.

http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/betta-fyl.com/

Don't have time to check it out so will leave it to someone more qualified. I would say yes it's dodgy, don't give money.

Even if it isn't dodgy, your money would go to better use in a more regulated charity.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Moved here from Surplus. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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It is a 100% legitimate. To ensure this, we have a guaranteed 30days maximum money back policy.


100% 'risky free' ? and with a money back policy - now that's what I call unique for a charity.

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..........it is initiated for the sole purpose of alienating and alleviating lack and poverty, .....


Try using a Thesaurus to avoid unintentional humour.

Quote:
However if wealth could be said to be expensive, how much more can we say of POVERTY?


Eh ? If Confucius said it I'd fire the translator.

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Beneficiaries are paid their instant referral benefits as soon as processed via the e-gold and or pay-pal accounts with which they subscribed to the project as their account numbers are their personal identification.


So - the poor and deprived have e-gold and paypal accounts ? Shocked

Quote:
Q. What are my obligations to the project?
A. -All beneficiaries are first of all obligated to pay a one-time subscription fee that lasts a life-time.
-all beneficiaries are obligated to refer subscriptions successfully to the project.


Run that by me again - the beneficiaries are the ones actually paying into the fund ? to get their own money back, being rich enough to provide charity but poor enough to deserve it.

It's some weird scam set up too look like some MLM scheme, clearly to give it credibility. Laughing

That site could win an award at The Edinburgh Comedy Festival.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hidden Registration, short domain registration, mobile phone numbers on contact page. While none of these things are illegal, they are all red flags. I'll dig deeper as I have time.



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www.betta-fyl.com
$ whois betta-fyl.com
$ dig betta-fyl.com $ dig www.betta-fyl.com => 216.39.62.48, NS: ns8.san.yahoo.com.
get title of page => Home
$ whois 216.39.62.48 (cached 26.04.08, 16:22:19)
216.39.62.48, (reverse ip), ns8.san.yahoo.com., AltaVista Company , [email protected]

Domain Name: BETTA-FYL.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 02-mar-2008
Creation Date: 01-mar-2008
Expiration Date: 01-mar-2009

Domain Name.......... betta-fyl.com
Creation Date........ 2008-03-02
Registration Date.... 2008-03-02
Expiry Date.......... 2009-03-02
Organisation Name.... Joseph Oyeleye
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. US

Admin Name........... PrivateRegContact Admin
Admin Address........ P O Box 99800
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ EmeryVille
Admin Address........ 94662
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ US
Admin Email.......... [email protected]
Admin Phone.......... +1.5105952002
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ PrivateRegContact TECH
Tech Address......... P O Box 99800
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... EmeryVille
Tech Address......... 94662
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... US
Tech Email........... [email protected]
Tech Phone........... +1.5105952002
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com
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Akai Ryu
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This hit my email too. I am pretty sure Yahoo has an anti-spam policy and could probably get it killed on that alone.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sounds seriously Ponzi to me, and there are red flags all over it. I'd also suggest starving them of air by tipping off whatever cash handling agents (eg paypal) they use - I'm on my PDA, or I'd it myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

After taking another look, and getting a second opinion, I say KILL it.

I'm not going to add it to the DB as it's not needed.

It earns you a pyramid
I don't even have one of those yet. Wink

If someone has a differing opinion, I'd be happy to hear it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I love how they are supposed to be " The Betta-Lyf Project " and there website is www.Betta-Fyl.com Laughing

If someone will PM me I will give them my email so they can forward the mail sent from this site. After I have that I will go about getting it killed. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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We are an entirely profit driven establishment, established and
located in the heart of Africa; Nigeria

Doesn't sound very charitable to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't think I've ever seen the word "legitimate" used as much as it is here on this lad site. Definitely Lad Website. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Q. What are my obligations to the project?
A. -All beneficiaries are first of all obligated to pay a one-time subscription fee that lasts a life-time.
-all beneficiaries are obligated to refer subscriptions successfully to the project.


Let's see.

I have to pay to join.
I have to recruit people in order to make money.

If this were legitimate, one or both of the above would not apply. But since both apply, this is 100% pure pyramid scam.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Abuse report sent to Yahoo.
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Akai Ryu
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Looks like it's dead.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just received this.

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Hello Mike,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Web Hosting.

Thank you for informing us of possible abuse on Yahoo! Web Hosting. We
have investigated the site and taken the necessary action. Please
continue to notify us of any content you believe violates the Yahoo! Web
Hosting Terms of Service, located at:

http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/tos/tos.php

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Web Hosting.

Regards,

Stan

Yahoo! Customer Care

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