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BobCat
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

With the discussion on ethics, I'm going to take the rules of spam
http://bruce.pennypacker.org/spamrules.html

and adopt them to scambaiting.


Rule#0: Scamming is theft.
Commentary: Scammers believe it is their right to steal from anyone on the internet.

Rule#1: Lads lie.
Admonition: Always assume that there is a measurable chance that the entity you are dealing with is a lad.
Contradiction: Lads will redefine any term in order to disguise their scamming.
Corollary: Lads attempt to re-define "scamming" as that which they do not do.

Rule #2: If a lad seems to be telling the truth, see Rule #1.
Corollary: A lad when caught, blames his victims.

Rule#3: Lads are greedy.
Corollary: Lads' greediness can make them do things that are stupid.
Corollary: Never underestimate the greediness of lads.
Corollary: Lads assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
Lads Standard of discource: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.

Rule #4: The natural course of a lad's business is to get baited.
John McClain's Commentary: BAIT HARD.

Rule #5: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.

Smile

edit: Rule#3 updated.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ I agree!
"The natural course of a lad's business is to get baited." beating

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BobCat wrote:
Rule#3: Lads are stupid.
Corollary: Lads' lies are really stupid.
Commentary: Lads' lies are boring.
Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of lads


I think this is a dangerous oversimplification (and I realize that you are being whimsical). Some of these guys are baiting in languages other than their native tongue and are smart enough to understand human nature and manipulate their victims (even highly educated victims) to get them to send money.

Some lads are stupid. Some are unsophisticated. Some are very smart indeed. A bit like any general population.

I always start by assuming that the lad is smarter than he appears, not dumber - just in case Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
Rule #5: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.

So are we saying that because a lad does something that it's ok for us to do it back to them? Rules for how scammers behave is one thing but the ethics of scambaiting is a totally different subject. I think it would be a good idea not to confuse the two.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Rules for how scammers behave is the topic of this thread. The ethics of scambaiting is not. The latter been very recently the subject of another thread, has also been frequently in the past and no doubt will be again. But not in this thread, please.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I thought that was quite amusing. Smile

With my serious head on, I agree with ON7 in that I believe it's an all too common mistake to assume lad stupidity. Many of them are good at what they do, in a foreign language to boot. If you need to generalise, I'd say greed is a more common trait than stupidity in lads.

But silly head on, (and I do believe that Bobcat was aiming for light relief) then yes that made me smile. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eight wrote:
Rules for how scammers behave is the topic of this thread. The ethics of scambaiting is not. The latter been very recently the subject of another thread, has also been frequently in the past and no doubt will be again. But not in this thread, please.
please link to that thread for eveyone's comfort. (and because i hate to get 2000 hits for everything i search for)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's here:
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136322

It comes up in the first ten if you do a search for "ethics", it is so recent that it is still on the front page of the Main Scambaiting forum, and it is now locked. All reasons why I did not link it in my earlier post.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh come on, I just did a search for "ethics" and found 2 locked threads just from today. On those threads, Sheboppe took the time to link to several much older ones. Those searches took me about 30 seconds.

Edit: Beaten to it by Eight.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

thanks ppl. i may have exaggerated the searching a little bit, but like some people won't use condoms, i won't use search. sorry for being an asshole, but i can't help it....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I disagree with this rule

Quote:
Commentary: Lads' lies are boring.


They can turn out to be some of the funniest ones

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^I have to concur with my esteemed colleague, Rumbero. Lads lies can be so much better than the-dog-ate-my-homework type of lies, vastly entertaining.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jerkov wrote:
thanks ppl. i may have exaggerated the searching a little bit, but like some people won't use condoms, i won't use search. sorry for being an asshole, but i can't help it....


Please try not be as this is a public forum. Courtesy and respect for others are highly desired traits. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Excellent breakdown, BobCat. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, I was being whimsical, and not meaning to start another ethics thread.

And you're right, I should rewrite rule#3.

Rule#3: Lads are greedy.
Corollary: Lads' greediness can make them do things that are stupid.
Corollary: Never underestimate the greediness of lads.
Corollary: Lads assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
Lads Standard of discource: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.

Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Much better. Very Happy

I thought:
Quote:
Corollary: "Lad's greediness often blinds them and makes them do things that are stupid"
had a better ring to it.

Or maybe I'm a smart-*[email protected]
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Rule #5 is a bit weak.

I think it should read.

Rule #5: Lads have no ethics or morals whatsoever.

Corollary: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.

Corollary: Lads would scam the flies off dog turds if they thought there was a buck in it.

Corollary: more

Corollary: even more

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