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Gadget
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My Vlad (who I will post more about soon) is trying to get money from me so she can travel to meet me but changed email address right as the money transfer was about to take place giving me some good "trust issue" ammo however I just noticed that The Bat is missing from this new email address. It is there in the first contact email address.

Does this mean anything other than I'm off script or they haven't set the bat up on this new address?
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Eight
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hard to say, especially without more about how far your bait has got, so this is surmise. Smile Maybe the Vlad is emailing you from a cafe rather than his own machine for some reason. More likely, imho, is that one Vlad is sending out all the initial emails using Bat! then those who reply are being passed onto another/other Vlad(s). The change of email address could be linked to that handover, or could be unrelated, such as closure of the previous account by the provider after a report from someone else they emailed.

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Skerrett
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Another possibility is that the new account is one where they don’t need it –as Eight said if you are now in the end game and cash is about to be discussed.

Maybe another victim accused them and told them about various sites listing the Bat as a “red flag” and the old addy is showing hits in Google so you are being transferred to a new one to prevent loss of income.

Has not happened to me too often though so maybe one Vlad has broken off from the main group and hopes to get paid without sharing.

All is pure speculation though!!

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Once the bait is over IMHO you should publish in an open forum or even when you have a few generic mass mails that cant identify your baiting persona -

Prevent the scammer making $$ from victims and that is a real victory, every single thank you from a victim your post alerts preventing a scammer making $$ should be considered a trophy too!!!

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They have sections on Vlads and Lads

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Gadget
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The email address change came when the bank account details were sent to me (passed on to Alan). I have also emailed the old addy and got a reply back confirming it was ok to use the alternative address so it's all a bit of a mystery.

If it is someone who has broken off from the main group then they might be Embarassed when they miss out.

Might be worth mentioning too that the bat in the first emails was the "Personal" version instead of the professional one. Not sure what the difference between the 2 is. Maybe the personal one runs out after a certain number of emails.
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harrya
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The bat is a legal piece of software and has lots of uses. Unfortunately it works very well for the vlads whether, this was by design or accident it's hard to say.
It may be that your vlad is new to the game and hasn't the money to pay for the pro version and having hooked a few vic's has resorted to good ol free hosting.

It's interesting most of the vlads I've played with have have had the latest pro version running.

You might just have a newby scammer, just ready for trophy pics Smile

Or maybe a hooker or maybe a single mum trying to get the hell out of there of maybe just Boris.

I bet $10 (wu) only it's a Boris who just got a laptop at home.

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Gadget
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes I've been trying for trophies but I don't think they have access to the girl as all I keep getting are photochops.

Here is the first attempt:

Image

Here is the second attempt:

Image

Still didn't get it exactly as I was asking but further attempts are being resisted so I've given up for the moment and will work on getting the payment over to them.........or not.

Any additional suggestions of where to go from here are welcomed
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harrya
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Great pics
Just play along straight bait.
She/he wants money, you need trust.
Funny things happen on the way to the bank.
Robbers, bus accidents, gambling debt needs to get paid.
We all have unexpected expenses.

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MAD
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have also seen an educational version of [email protected]

I guess that is for [email protected] in training.

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wayne
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Seen the Christmas version yet?

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MAD
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nope, but just saw my first UNREG version.

I had a feeling she was new. Must still be in the trial period. Glad i can make it not worth her while to buy it.

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Katya(Wow) = "today I shall go to the to parents, and I shall be come back tomorrow,
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Chelsea on IM - YOU WILL COME BACK TO MEET THE P33 IN YOUR INBOX VERY SLOW

Ira - My heart beats like a Vulcan when I read your letters.
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Stepan Fetchit
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

There's also the possibility they've learned how to hide it in the headers, too. Seems like a lot more vlad scripts without it showing up.

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