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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Tonight I decided, for no reason other than boredom and Lemon Hart rum, to reply to all the lads in one of my catcher accounts thus:

Quote:


So what did I get back, not one hour later?

Kingsley Ahmad, who wouldn't recognize irony if it parked an 18-wheeler on his chest, wrote:
Let me know if you are interested in this transaction after going through my email once again.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well not a modality I would use to start a bait, but it certainly illustrates that in the early emails, before you get them off topic, the lads don't read what you send them.

I'll be interested which service the lad signs up for Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, it may end a bait a bit early, but... if the bait takes off, you cannot say they were not warned!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

love it Laughing Seriously you could write a first response as

Quote:
Dear X
blah, blah, wubble, wubble, dancing badgers, fresh yellow frogs, I hate the planet and my fish is green.
love and kisses
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and they'd see it as a consent to help. Lads will never read a first response. The very fact you sent an email back to them pretty much makes them believe you want to help.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Certainly an upfront (if not in your face) honest approach. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's not something I'd do, just on the off chance, but it does indeed go to show that there is absolutely no point in giving them your convoluted back story in the early emails. It's a salutary lesson that they don't read them.
Plus it made me laugh. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Rodus You owe me a keyboard.

And I couldn't resist, so a lad in my catcher account now has your email on its way to him - I did change the name to the character he originally emailed to make it slightly more credible. I'll be interested if I get an answer.

[Edit - I did keep the rank and service, though Shocked ]

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Rodus wrote:
Lads will never read a first response.


You just had to go and spoil my nice Sunday afternoon, didn't you?

For anyone else, especially people new to baiting: The above quoted sentence does not apply 100%. It's a myth that continues to infect the forums here and it's been proven to be false time and again (by me and others). Why doesn't it die? Maybe because it's a catchy, pithy little saying, and sometimes you get a lad who comes along who really just skips over your first reply and sends the next part of his script (see "Confirmation Bias"). The fact that some do this does not mean that all do this.

There. My fortnightly post about this subject has been completed. See ya in two weeks, same subject, same channel, same old rant, folks!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^OK, I'll rephrase. In my experience 99% of lads will never read the first response.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree with you 100% Otterfan.

It really kills me to read that comment.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What? Did Rodus have a first comment? I didn't read it, I only read his second one (or was it his third?). Wink


I must have lads that passed their reading class because for me it is about 50/50. Of course I am ParaNoid and I think that everyone reads my emails... Shocked


I like the Modality of the OP. Lads don't know that what we do is called baiting (unless they read here) and they may think that the "victim" hit a wrong key (or 3) and meant "Dating". I'll be interested to see where this goes. Very Happy


Edited because I misplaced several letters in several words. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Lads get two sorts of replies to their initial letters:

1. F***k Off
2. I'm interested, but may be cautious.

If they cannot put your reply into category 1, then it is at least worth their while replying to it. Therefore any reply that is not obviously a blow-off gets a reply.

Try replying with one of these and see how far it gets you.


1. F**K off scammer

2. HAHA UR FORMAT NA JOKE.GO BACK TO UR VILLAGE SMALL MUGU BOI.

The fact is that the most that 99% of lads do is to skim the first reply and put it in one of the above classes. Some do not do even that. It takes time to read a long email, and there is nothing in there that they need to know. If you wrote a long email then you are interested. Especially with the catcher lads there is a language and a cultural barrier to them understanding a complex mail, but they do not need to understand it. All they need to know is that you are interested.

At the absolute maximum the first mail should be three sentences and two lines long. I've had good responses to a simple "OK", and a blank reply has worked. The only reason to write more is so you can slap the lad later for not reading it. If he reads it first then that's a bonus.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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HAHA UR FORMAT NA JOKE.GO BACK TO UR VILLAGE SMALL MUGU BOI.


I use something very similar when I get bored and my catcher account overflows. Around 80% do not reply (funny that) but 10% reply with their next script and another 10% respond with something like "SAME TOO U". This second 10% are the best as with a little prompting they give very interesting replies such as these two from the International Monetary Find:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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It is difficult to build a long lasting relationship built upon curses but I'm working on it.


Take heart. My partner and I have been together for three and a half years now.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have had a few lads respond to my complicated first-email background story in the past.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am with Otterfan and thud419, if they did not read your first reply, then mass insult baiting would not work. With mass insult baiting you only email them once with an insult and guess what you get quite a few insult replies back.

Also please look up "confirmation bias" like Otterfan said. It plagues the world we live in.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So, to summarise the posts above.

Some Lads read you first e-mail, some lads don't
Then we get into Vlads, who may well do the same.
I personally have an account that sends out 'blork breep snibbit' as a reply to all incoming messages, I still get a few that send again.

The moral of the story as I see it, is :

Don't worry about writing too much to begin with. Let the Lad hook himself before you reel him in. (or her!)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

TheGreatOok wrote:
Also please look up "confirmation bias" like Otterfan said. It plagues the world we live in.


Oooo, I love it when people talk scientific terms Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Don't worry about writing too much to begin with. Let the Lad hook himself before you reel him in. (or her!)


He's right. I have seen even the most expierienced baiters give a whole essay as an intial response which the lad may not even read, so there's no point in spending half an hour writing a letter if the scammer may only spend half a second to hit reply. Make a simple "Im interested so what do I do?" or "I dont fully understand" and keep it short until you start seeing natural responses. We are here to waste THEIR time, not ours!
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