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 How do you kill fake bank sites

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wtriker
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Could someone please explain how you manage to kill bogus bank and other web sites? I've posted one in that forum but I don't understand who here would have the authority to do that. Does this not require the cooperation of the ISP? Who has the pull to get them to pull web site and what if they refuse? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Luckily there's plenty of reading to do: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59431

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks but I guess I missed it. I didn't see anything there that answered my questions.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Short answer: we send abuse reports to the hosters of the sites detailing the fraudulent nature of the site, with links to the evidence. The hoster checks it out and suspends them.
Sometimes it gets trickier than this though. Wink
Read up at aa419.org if you want lots more reading on the topic.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Also check this thread.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133618

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Unfortunately, you can't explain how to "kill" fake sites in one short sentence. Yes, it requires the cooperation of the ISP. Killing a fake site involves gathering evidence for a report to the ISP asking them to remove it. I've just started learning how to do it myself (and got my first flag!) Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi wtriker,

If you'd like some help learning how to identify and kill a fake site, drop me a PM and if you decide want to go ahead we'll tell the Mods here that you are taking some training - I'd be happy to teach you the bit that I know.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OK, thanks for the replies and my question was answered. The first impression, based on comments in the forum, was that someone on this forum was able to kill the web sites and that is what prompted the question. All it really is, if I understand correctly now, is a mechanism for reporting fraudulent sites to the responsible ISP. It still requires the ISP to actually take action. In the case where the ISP is uncooperative, tough.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That's a little simplistic, as there are possibly a number of organizations involved in putting a domain on the 'net and we can contact some (or all), but basically you are correct.

There isn't someone here with a big switch who can just turn them off - we're good, but not that good Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

wtriker wrote:
... someone on this forum ... able to kill the web sites

True to an extent. Laughing

One of those that fit in the word "someone" could be you, if you want invest the time to learn how. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We need all the help we can get wtriker. Please feel free to join us.

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Old No. 7
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

J wrote:
So, ON7, still looking for the 'off' switch?


No - I knew all along that you had hidden it from us mere mortals, just to make us work harder Laughing

(I think Artemis knows where it is though Shocked )

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