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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Your thoughts on this, (prolly touchy) subject?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The guy is a wannabe hero who created an incomprehensible website and then had the audacity to charge people for his "expertise"? Sorry, he's not much better than the scammers if he thinks he's creating value for his audience. Anyone who thinks he/she is the preeminent authority on 419 scams is likely deluding him/herself.

The best I'll say is that he has good intentions somewhere, probably underneath a flashing icon.

Notice the site hasn't been updated since Sept, 2007.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Donate US$100.-- (one hundred or more) and become a guest for a half a year (180 days)


Shocked That's pretty steep for info that can be found here and many other places on the 'net for free.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

US$100? HAHAhaha.... Don't make me spit coffee. He's missing the "but wait, there's more!" line though. That's why I'm not giving him any credibility.

I dunno if this is significant, but he's only three letters away from being the WORST. His website is also guilty of many crimes against aesthetics.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

...or lay off the coke. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That whole website reminds me of those fly-by-night places that have the "instant mega weight loss success rate" diet pills for sale.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

These guys remind me of the Ultrascan people a bit.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, but they actually give you something for your money, even if it is worm tablet you can get cheaper at the vets.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OMG! What a website! It's somehow so 90s, with all it's flashy-thingy, it's colors and the whole "style" of it.

And he used a trial of some program called Hypersnap to take a screenshot of his mail-client... Either use Gimp or just use the magic combo and paste into Paint. Wink

I'd love to have that 1M$-note though... Wink

Well, I'm gonna go wash out my eyes with Domestos, or better some highly concentrated acid...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes must admit looks like scammers cut & paste to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If I could kill sites for being ugly, that piece of crap would be at the top of my list! Laughing Laughing
And WTF is THIS shit?
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If the transaction you are involved in is real and you are going to get millions of dollars, will US$50 matter? NO! At least you will have helped somebody else who was not so lucky.

This seriously borders on scamming in my book. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

For some reason, it reminds me of the Time Cube website ("YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID!!!11one11") in setup and, uh...aesthetics.

At least it's four and a half pages shorter.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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How to use our Telephone Service:

1. Donate US$50.00 (fifty) ...

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3. We will call YOU, not the other way around;


50$ to receive a call is quite a lot of money...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Cutting though the grist to the primary offense, Callum wrote:
His website is also guilty of many crimes against aesthetics.


True. The whole page is painful to look at, and has the vibe of a scam site..... ugly.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well the whois information is interesting. Feel free to contact the Site admin: Laughing

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Registrant ID:GODA-08439676
Registrant Name:Nigerian Scams
Registrant Street1:Box 12345
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10345
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9999999999
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Admin ID:GODA-28439676
Admin Name:Nigerian Scams
Admin Street1:Box 12345
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Admin State/Province:NY
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Hmmmm Let me see, while it's possible that there is a PO box 12345 somewhere I somehow doubt that's a 'sincere' entry. Phone number, Oh Please! and Google finds no match for a zip code of 10345

So while this site has been around since oct of 2001 it looks more like an attempt to cash in on 419 scamming than anything else.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A legit site would have real registration info. It spells scam to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Can I take it down and earn my first flag?

EDIT: I seriously doubt we can take it down as he'll just claim he was protecting his info from scammers who may be out to get him.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

sheboppe wrote:
A legit site would have real registration info. It spells scam to me.

Agreed. I smell someone trying to make a buck from potential or real scam victims. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hypothetically, what would happen if we massbaited him into taking down his site my asking him a whole bunch of questions and giving him the run around, then going to locations where we get the same thing for free? (Hypothetically of course...)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Harassment is never a good idea, Ex. We bait 419 scammers, and even though this guy appears to be a scammer, assuming and acting stupidly will get us into trouble.

Let's not go there.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Agree.

While yes, it looks like this guy is trying to profit from victims, technically I don't think it's an outright scam.

And for one Anti-419 site to be beating up on another Anti-419 site over who has the 'purist' message would just make us look bad.

IMHO just put this guy in the same general category as a troll. Annoying but harmless. If asked I'll advise against people spending money on what he offers but other than that I don't plan to spend any more time on that guy.

Unless it's to illustrate how to create a really hideous looking site using MS Frontpage 6 Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ow my eyes. All I can say is that I wasn't at all surprised to find this in the page's source code:
Code:
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ex. wrote:
I seriously doubt we can take it down as he'll just claim he was protecting his info from scammers who may be out to get him.
There are proper ways to do that, godaddy for example. It is strictly against the rules to use false information in the registration, and that would probably be enough to get it closed if it were reported.

However, I agree that we ought to leave it alone unless we get more information that he is actively scamming victims.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

He hasn't put his London clock forward. Laughing

At least I now know what time it is in Nigeria.

You lot can always name and shame him here for crimes against website design...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What aload of crap that site is. I wish there was something that could be done.
I like this
We have on file:

Scamster/Gangster Names: 6,131
Company Names Scamster/Gangster use: 1,004
Scamster/Gangster e-mail addresses: 5,903
Scamster/Gangster Phone/Fax Numbers: 3,529
is that all?
that would be a slow day around this site.

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