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 Pigeon King International Inc. Is this for real??Solved!

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bill2
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Got a flyer in the mail today (yes we do get mail here, twice a week Wink ), with minimum info, promising a lot and a link to this website http://pigeonkinginternational.com/index.html

They give no numbers, just promises, ten year contracts, guaranteed fixed prices, just too good to be true. But I could be wrong Smile

I have eaten pigeon before, but was told that all they're good for is soup. Maybe a $36 pigeon tastes better, but that's then a tasty and expensive bite.

Normally we see pigeons here as air rats and they are free to kill.
But........ What do you think?

Edit: Yes I do have a huge barn empty too Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Bill: there is a lot on the net about this bus.
some good and bad.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think it's for racing pigeons. You'd probably have to selectively breed them, and raising, training and selectively breeding each pigeon is probably gonna cost more than the $8 they will pay per bird.

Saying that, i could be a massive liar.

It seems pretty nicely laid out. they have a 5 year contract on the website.

I'd say if it is a scam, it's probably not the take your money and run kind.

Ring the free number and get a free pack. Can't hurt.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks I'll google Embarassed my bad Wink

But the website is solid? I have no clue there, SP and I still have to finish site killing 1o1 Very Happy

Edit: @newdonym
Friends in Holland were making a good living with it, but it's 24/7 work, not so simple as they tell you here.

Edit2: [email protected] you're fast Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd say so, but i'm no expert.

They also have a ten year lease on this redirection url.
www.thepigeonflyer.com

Edit: fast as a speeding pigeon, or collapsing ponzi pyramid. (you can choose which)

Actually, i only made a new post because you beat me to the edit.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep, I wait a bit till this is settled Smile
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=1f0d3aa8-b9c8-41c2-87db-729894cf82c8

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/1/33962.html?1190611208

http://news.therecord.com/Business/article/288621

and then I walk in the other direction Wink

Thanks guys

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The Iowa Attorney General seems to think its a scam, so I would too...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It might as be ducks instead of pigeons.

If it quacks like one.....

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

LOL I thought about a clay pigeon shooting range, but then a tad different Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Run away! Run away!

Actually a really interesting read, and I went into the whole Ponzi background too. Fascinating stuff.

As one of the articles I saw relating to this points out...

Take the pigeons out of the equation, and it becomes quite quickly apparent this is a Ponzi scam...(where later investors subscriptions pay the returns to the former investors).

Where x is pigeons - x is sold for $500 with the guarantee to buy back the products of x at $8-$50 a time, however x has negligible value on the open market, only as a part of this scheme, so in reality x can be anything with negligible value (bonds, dodgy emeralds, ostriches, earthworms, etc) and as long as the scheme keeps growing, everyone maintains the dizzy illusion of all being well. Of course the growth is finite, and it all turns to chalk sometime or other, usually with the guy in the middle skipping the country.

It may well be that pigeons are the future of protein and breeding them for meat is a truly cost-effective way of feeding your family - in that case, collect up a few dozen pigeons you find flying around and start breeding them yourself - but with no existing market for the meat, you'd better be really into pastilla (which is a delicious Moroccan pigeon dish), or have a huge commercial deep freeze. Maybe you will develop your own local market, free enterprise is to be encouraged, but that whole buyback at above market value scheme looks like trouble waiting to happen.

Bill2, thanks for posting all that stuff up here - fascinating.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes indded, very interesting reading.
Off topic. Some interesting legal reading is in the court judgment of two ponzi operators who sued Thornton of Crimebusters Now.

This is here, click on the TTI and BIM Link (it won't open right now)

http://crimebustersnow.com/

Apparently Thornton did a great job, seeing he represented himself.

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