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alienara
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey guys,

I just got one today, not sure if this is a scam, so please have a look.



4U2Bid Online Auction
911 Beville Rd Ste 5
Daytona Beach, FL 32119 USA

Detailed Job Description

The primary goal of the Administrative Assistant/Sales Support Representative is to provide local representation within the location of the auctioned item, provide our clients with convenient payment options, contribute to the sales force and add convenience to our service dedicated to individuals, businesses, and organizations worldwide.

You will be assisting our clients within Australia, the assistance to be provided will include: communication with buyers regarding shipping and payments, payment collections and currency conversions, managing data and correspondence, reporting to supervisor.

- Communicating with Clients
The clients you will communicate with by email have agreed to make the purchase, no need to convince or sell, instead provide assistance with the completion of the purchase. No client will contact you during initial stage of employment; you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor via email. All communication with buyers and supervisor is by email.

- Managing Data
Along with the payments received from buyers you will be receiving details of these sales. These details will include items sold, price, and buyer's information.

- Forwarding of the Payments
Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 5% as commission and forwarding the rest to either the seller or other representative, whose information will be provided. It is crucial to complete forwarding of the payments in a time efficient manner.

- Correspondence
You will be submitting brief reports, weekly reports, and monthly reports. Weekly and monthly reports are to be done in Excel format.
Here is an example of a brief report:

Date: January 8, '08
Buyer: Steve Hill
Item: MontBlanc
Price: $3,921.55AUD
Commission 5%: $196.00AUD
Fees: $180.00AUD
Forwarded to Jane Mossa, Chisinau, Moldova: $3,545.55AUD / $3,191.00USD

Reference Numbers for Jane Moss: 3412775210

- Fees, and Transferring Procedures
All fees are covered by the company. The fees for transferring are simply deducted from the payment received. No client will contact you during initial stage of the trial period. After the first month of employment you will begin to have contact with the buyers via email in regards to collection of the payments. For the first month you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor. You will be forwarding the received payments through western union transferring agents, they are located at the post offices; this allows instant currency conversions and instant payment transferring.

Income and Taxes

Salary Part-Time

During the first month of employment which is considered as the training and step by step guidance period for new employees, for working part-time, 3hours per day, Monday-Friday; you will be paid 1,200AUD per month, plus 5% commission from every payment received and forwarded. The salary will be sent in the form of wire transfer directly to your account. After the first month of employment your base pay salary will go up to 1,500AUD per month, plus 5% commission. Saturday is an optional day for working; receive 10% instead of 5% for sales on Saturdays.

Salary Full-Time
During the first month of employment which is considered as the training and step by step guidance period for new employees, for working full-time, 6hours per day, Monday-Friday; you will be paid 2,400AUD per month, plus 5% commission from every payment received and forwarded. The salary will be sent in the form of wire transfer directly to your account. After the first month of employment your base pay salary will go up to 3,000AUD per month, plus 5% commission. Saturday is an optional day for working; receive 10% instead of 5% for sales on Saturdays.

Taxes
You will receive a monthly invoice stating your total income. All applicable taxes are covered by the company.

Payments
In order to receive payments from clients and your salary please provide with the account information:


Account Holder’s Name:

Type of Account (Checking, Savings, Business):

Name of Account (If Business):

Name of the Bank:

Account Number:

BSB Number:



The Company will not reveal these details; and will only remit agreed funds to the account at the times and dates specified prior each transaction. The Employee will not attempt to use any of the Company funds – other than those that are deposited in relation to the employment as agreed remuneration, and commissions.

VACATIONS, PAID LEAVES

The EMPLOYEE is entitled to a one month of paid vacation leave per year after working for the COMPANY for at least 6 months. The EMPLOYEE is entitled to two weeks of paid leave due to illnesses, sickness, and such, per year, after working for the COMPANY for at least 6 months.


WORKING DEADLINES

The EMPLOYEE will be receiving payments from buyers. EMPLOYEE must forward the payments in a time efficient manner - on the same day as the payment is received. If a payment is not forwarded within 24 hours without a valid reason the buyer will contact authorities who will in turn contact the EMPLOYEE; if the payment is not forwarded within 48 hours for any reason from time received the buyer will contact authorities who in turn will contact the EMPLOYEE; confidential information may be disclosed to authorities if required.

ASSURANCES

COMPANY agrees that all activity pursuant to this Agreement will be in accordance with all the applicable current federal, state and local laws, rules and regulations.

NON-DISCLOSURE OF TRADE SECRETS AND OTHER PROPRIETARY INFORMATION

EMPLOYEE agrees not to disclose or communicate, in any manner, either during or after EMPLOYEE’S agreement with COMPANY, information about COMPANY, its operations, or any other information, that relates to the business of COMPANY including, but not limited to: names of customers, strategies, operations, or any other information of any kind which would be deemed confidential, a trade secret, or other form of proprietary information of COMPANY. EMPLOYEE acknowledges that the above information is material and confidential and that it affects the profitability and reputation of COMPANY.


TERMINATION OF CONTRACT

This Work Contract can be terminated by EMPLOYEE only with a written 5 day notice, for any reasons. Under no circumstances can this contract be terminated on the same day as the termination is proposed by either EMPLOYEE or COMPANY. EMPLOYEE must provide a written 5 day notice and continue working for the COMPANY until the expiration of these 5 days, then the termination of contract will be valid. Once the EMPLOYEE signs this contract it is no longer possible to terminate this contract without a written 5 day notice.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned have executed this Work Contract. The parties hereto agree that facsimile and e-mail signatures shall be as effective as if originals.


COMPANY

Elizabeth Connelly

Human Resources Executive

4U2Bid Online Auction

911 Beville Rd Ste 5

Daytona Beach, FL 32119

USA


Anyone thinks this looks very familiar? Also I picked this one up from my junk mail folder. Thought it looked interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

100% cheque mule scam Laughing
Here's the bit that matters:
Quote:
- Forwarding of the Payments
Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 5% as commission and forwarding the rest to either the seller or other representative, whose information will be provided. It is crucial to complete forwarding of the payments in a time efficient manner.


[Edit]- Oh, and this:
Quote:
The EMPLOYEE will be receiving payments from buyers. EMPLOYEE must forward the payments in a time efficient manner - on the same day as the payment is received. If a payment is not forwarded within 24 hours without a valid reason the buyer will contact authorities who will in turn contact the EMPLOYEE; if the payment is not forwarded within 48 hours for any reason from time received the buyer will contact authorities who in turn will contact the EMPLOYEE; confidential information may be disclosed to authorities if required.

Pure lad/vlad BS to keep the mule from waiting until the cheques bounce to send the $$.

Is there a website involved in this, by chance? If so, please post it. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Excellent advice from Slayer, as always. If I may, here's another sure-fire indicator of a scam...

Quote:
- Fees, and Transferring Procedures
All fees are covered by the company. The fees for transferring are simply deducted from the payment received. No client will contact you during initial stage of the trial period. After the first month of employment you will begin to have contact with the buyers via email in regards to collection of the payments. For the first month you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor. You will be forwarding the received payments through western union transferring agents, they are located at the post offices; this allows instant currency conversions and instant payment transferring


Those two words appearing in any e-mail confirm it right away. Unless the person requesting that payment method (or any other wire transfer / instant cash transfer) is immediate family and can prove it, it's a scam. Maybe there are legitimate businesses out there who will use Western Onion or MooneyGramm on occasion, but they'd never make it their usual practice.
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alienara
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No unfortunately i haven't been given a website. I did ask for it though as I tried to look as interested in it as possible.

Here's the person's email so maybe some of our boys can have some fun if they want.

[email protected]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ds-careers.com
Botnet Exclamation

Address lookup
canonical name ds-careers.com.
aliases
addresses 76.111.24.146 => Comcast Cable Communications, Inc (US)
86.125.248.54 => RCS & RDS S.A. (RO)
93.81.49.165 => Investelektrosviaz Ltd. (RU)
71.56.201.13 => Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc (US)
71.192.111.168 => Comcast Cable Communications, IP Services (US)

Quote:
Domain Name: DS-CAREERS.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS1.FIND-MC.COM
Name Server: NS2.FIND-MC.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 04-mar-2008
Creation Date: 04-mar-2008
Expiration Date: 04-mar-2009

Quote:
Registration Service Provided By: Rustelekom
Contact: [email protected]

Domain name: ds-careers.com

Registrant Contact:

Viviana Milano ([email protected])
+39.362220691
Fax:
Via Adua, 109
Borgomasino, 10031
IT

Administrative Contact:

Viviana Milano ([email protected])
+39.362220691
Fax:
Via Adua, 109
Borgomasino, 10031
IT

Technical Contact:

Viviana Milano ([email protected])
+39.362220691
Fax:
Via Adua, 109
Borgomasino, 10031
IT

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.find-mc.com
ns2.find-mc.com

Creation date: 04 Mar 2008 22:25:35
Expiration date: 04 Mar 2009 22:25:35


Will need a registrar kill
[email protected], [email protected]

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Please post the email headers.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Gosh my very first scam that I actually looked into and they had to be scary... grr... anyway good thing no info has been sent. Here is the email header.

Quote:
New job position for Daniel available



And here is the email that they sent.


Quote:
Hello Daniel,

4U2Bid is currently hiring in Australia for the positions of Administrative Assistant/Sales Support. We have reviewed your resume on Seek.com.au and would like to introduce you to our job opening. The position focuses on providing administrative assistance and sales support in online sales.

About Us:
4U2Bid, with headquarters in Florida, USA, is an exciting business that simplifies the online auction process. The primary goal of the administrative assistant / sales support representative is to contribute to the sales force and add convenience to our service dedicated to individuals and businesses worldwide.

Position Details:

Work at home; full-time or part-time.

You will be assisting our clients within Australia, the assistance to be provided will include: communication with buyers regarding shipping and payments, payment collections and currency conversions, managing data and correspondence, reporting to supervisor.

- Communicating with Clients

The clients you will communicate with by email have agreed to make the purchase, no need to convince or sell, instead provide assistance with the completion of the purchase. No client will contact you during initial stage of employment; you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor via email. All communication with buyers and supervisor is by email.

- Forwarding of the Payments, Fees, and Transferring Procedures

Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 5% as commission and forwarding the rest to either the seller or other representative, whose information will be provided. All fees are covered by the company. The fees for transferring are simply deducted from the payment received. You will be forwarding the received payments through western union transferring agents, they are located at the post offices; this allows instant currency conversions and instant payment transferring.

- Correspondence

You will be submitting brief reports, weekly reports, and monthly reports. Weekly and monthly reports are to be done in Excel format.

- Salary Part-Time and Full-Time

Part-time, 3 hours per day, Monday-Friday; you will be paid 1,200AUD per month, plus 5% commission from every payment received and forwarded. Full-time, 6 hours per day, Monday-Friday; you will be paid 2,400AUD per month, plus 5% commission from every payment received and forwarded. The salary will be sent in the form of bank transfer directly to your account. All applicable taxes will be covered by the company.

Part-time and full-time positions, work at home, online.

Part-time: Three hours per day, during either one of these shifts:
9:00am-12:00pm 11:00am-2:00pm 12:00pm-3:00pm 2:00pm-5:00pm

Full Time: Six hours per day during either one of these shifts:
9:00am-3:00pm 11:00am-5:00pm


If interested in our offer please email us, to [email protected], stating whether you are interested in full-time or part-time position.

Thank You,
4U2Bid Team

[email protected]


So what do we do with this?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Somewhere on your email page (when an email is opened) will be the following- full header or show full header (or something very similar). On yahoo it is in the bottom right corner below the email it may be somewhere else on other email providers

Click on this.
At the top of your email there will now be some computer geek looking gobbledegook-copy and paste this here in this thread-someone will get back to you.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

somehow i hope this is right.. or i would have made a joke out of myself by claiming to be a geek and yet not knowing what a full email header is... >.<
Quote:
Received: by 10.110.57.9 with SMTP id f9cs403893tia;
Thu, 6 Mar 2008 02:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.100.255.10 with SMTP id c10mr9893514ani.3.1204801096622;
Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:58:16 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from ds-recruit.com (host42-222-static.29-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.29.222.42])
by mx.google.com with SMTP id 67si3312236wra.19.2008.03.06.02.58.15;
Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:58:16 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 87.29.222.42 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected]) client-ip=87.29.222.42;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 87.29.222.42 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected]) [email protected]
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>

should i just turn on my ip hider from now on a pretend to be in italy? >.<
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If any of that in the above is your email address-remove that and re post-you can do that by just editing your post above this one.

Someone should be along shortly.

edit to add

to hide IP's use something like fastmail or gmail.

Better still go "here" and ask for a mentor.

and read all the sticky's TWICE!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Guess I'm Someone today Laughing
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Quote:
Validating [email protected]...

Validation results
confidence rating: 2 - DNS
The email address passed this level of validation
before the validation stopped due to the error below.
This does not indicate a problem with the address, but
it does not guarantee a good address, either.
error at level 3: Connection refused
canonical address: <[email protected]>

MX records
preference exchange IP address (if included)
50 87.29.222.42

SMTP session
[Resolving 87.29.222.42...]
[Contacting 87.29.222.42 [87.29.222.42]...]
[Connection refused]
-- end --
87.29.222.42 = Telecom Italia Net

---Question----Hmmm, been some changes since earlier today. Twisted Evil
Quote:
Address lookup
canonical name ds-recruit.com.
aliases
addresses 127.0.0.1
Quote:
Domain Name: DS-RECRUIT.COM
Registrar: COMPUTER SERVICES LANGENBACH GMBH DBA JOKER.COM
Whois Server: whois.joker.com
Referral URL: http://www.joker.com
Name Server: A.NS.JOKER.COM
Name Server: B.NS.JOKER.COM
Name Server: C.NS.JOKER.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 05-mar-2008
Creation Date: 05-mar-2008
Expiration Date: 05-mar-2009
Quote:
Queried whois.joker.com with "ds-recruit.com"...

domain: ds-recruit.com
owner: Rachel
organization: Magnus Business Community
email: [email protected]
address: 4104 Flintlock Court
city: Glenelg
state: MD
postal-code: 21737
country: US
phone: +410.7333371
admin-c: CCOM-1246251 [email protected]
tech-c: CCOM-1246251 [email protected]
billing-c: CCOM-1246251 [email protected]
nserver: a.ns.joker.com 69.39.224.27
nserver: b.ns.joker.com 159.25.97.69
nserver: c.ns.joker.com 207.44.185.10
status: lock
created: 2008-03-05 23:57:49 UTC
modified: 2008-03-06 00:07:33 UTC
expires: 2009-03-05 23:57:49 UTC

contact-hdl: CCOM-1246251
person: Rachel
organization: Magnus Business Community
email: [email protected]
address: 4104 Flintlock Court
city: Glenelg
state: MD
postal-code: 21737
country: US
phone: +410.7333371

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.047333
db-updated: 2008-03-11 13:49:43
Quote:
Network Whois record
Queried whois.arin.net with "127.0.0.1"...

OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID: IANA
Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City: Marina del Rey
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90292-6695
Country: US
...
NetName: LOOPBACK
NetHandle: NET-127-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: IANA Special Use
Comment: Please see RFC 3330 for additional information.


net result = ds-recruit.com is DEAD Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

lol thanks alot for that.

no worries, i do use gmail and i've made sure that i don't leave my email address there. so i guess it's safe to just ignore them then =)

thanks again guys. man some of the stories i've read here have really kept me past my bedtime haha
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@ Alienara - if you want some really neat easy to get trophies, you should sign up for premium membership. This will give you access to a drop box address you can use as your baiting char address, so you can actually safely receive the checks in these types of baits. The box operator can then either mail them to you (at your cost) or send you a scan of them.

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