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Poll :: Do you burn your lads

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have never burned a lad before i think educating them of our existence is unnecessary.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No. It's unnecessary and counterproductive.

EDIT: Besides, the bait doesn't end until you quit.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not any more. It's more fun leaving them to wonder what they did wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No point really... Just makes them a little more baiter aware.

If we tell them they get baited, that'll educate them to the tactics of baiters :O

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

NEVER, just let them figure it out or have your character disappear.
I'm still getting emails to my "wife's email" from my first "friend" who knows I was shot in Amsterdam thanks to Vpmanchester's & Presephone's phone assistance. I hope to pick him up again, but haven't found his new addy yet and I stink @ asem's Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No. (If someone read the stickies, this poll would be unnecessary).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Living up to your description, Pastor Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Frank

There are different views on this. I occasionally burn a lad. For instance, my lad Kevin Will Tony... this idiot has been around 2+ years. He's been on numerous safaris and has more church tattoos that you can count on one hand. I think the more destructive thing for an idiot lad like this would be to tell him that all of his work was in vain, because the church never existed. He was a big joke to a bunch of people. I mean, what would be more humiliating than that?

There are two schools of thought on this... some think that, in certain instances, burning a lad is of more benefit. For instance, from that moment on they will be skeptical of all people and may drop a real victim thinking they are a baiter. I don't agree with doing that every time, but I do think that there are certain instances where it is better to burn that not.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

For the most part no, but there are times when it can help or would be pointless not too. There is no hard and fast rule on this. Burning has it uses as does just fading away. I would say if you are just starting out to not burn, as you learn more you may come across the rare situation where burning will help more than fading.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I won't tell anyone how to bait, but I don't do burns myself.

I used to (I think lots of people did), just because it was fun to get it all off my chest. But it was only fun for that moment and then the bait was definitely over. I've since found that a lad who is frustrated and confused is in far more pain than one who has just been burned. If you burn them, they know not to contact you anymore. If you leave them hanging or let the bait fade away, they'll always think there's still hope.

I think most lads already know about baiters and just write us off as a "cost of doing business", but I don't see any need to confirm it for them. That gives them the luxury of blaming someone other than themselves for a failed scam attempt.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

craig007 wrote:
Living up to your description, Pastor Wink


Well... what would you have me do? Pfft.. never mind, there is a spring training game on the radio. Sweet Jesus, baseball is back!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think sometimes the concept of scambaiting is mis-read by the media and quite often new members here.
The idea of baiting is not to get one over on the "stupid scammer', the whole point is to waste his time and resources, if we educate every lad that we bait it won't take long before the word gets round as it did a while ago when the phrase "Gmail joker surfaced".
The way we get one over on the "stupid scammer" is with trophies, safaris and silly sig lines that we all like to have a laugh at in the privacy of our own forum.
We should leave every lad rebaitable, it's a bit like fishing, if you catch one throw him back in for someone else to catch another day.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

As general practice, no. All of the stuff everyone else said about educating them, etc. applies here. So for short or straight baits, I'd say no.
I do agree that there are special circumstances where it is acceptable.
For me, it seems that the longer I've been baiting a lad, the more the temptation to burn them.
If I've run a lad around for years, with lots of twists and turns, and done as much mental torture as I can. . . burning him just seems too good to pass up. I'm not sure if I'll ever do it, but the lad I've been baiting for 10 months is a good candidate, IF the bait ever ends. Wink

That said, I think the benefit for burning is only to the baiter, really.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Bombardeir good analogy Laughing as i said i don't burn i just want to see what other baiter's think about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've never burned one yet.
Driven them demented explaining W onion, how to work a scanner and finding me offices in non existent places.
They eventually get bored/ frustrated and drop me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Ima

Especially in the cases where the lad gets VERY off script, burning (IMO) seems more acceptable. For instance, if a lad falls in love with your character and starts doing all of these crazy things, it's more benefit to let him know that there is no hot female writing those letters (unless you are Ima) and that this whole thing was a hoax. My $.02.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have never applied this on a lad.
It is more of a psychological trauma for them just to wonder about what happened.
Specially when they have been branded and have become property of a baiter Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Jojo - I was thinking along the lines of when you are impersonating a celebrity also and the lad finally realizes you aren't the said celebrity. It is one of those, duh how stupid are you, moments.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have never intentionally burned anyone, but Joseph Twumasi [email protected] found this site, whined about being treated poorly, and I did enjoy telling him that 5 people he thought he was dealing with were, in fact, just one person (me). He wrote very compromising emails (he is a closeted homosexual), and his shenanigans were vastly entertaining to me. I think he no longer scams as a result.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Right on Ook. I had a lad find out after 3 safaris and a photo shoot that indeed I was NOT Christopher Walken. That's perfect for burning.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@dr stephen williams

Did you post the original gay mugu bait??? Is there a linky???
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think it's better to leave them wondering why their best didn't work out for them.

One school of thought says that if they ARE burned they will be wary of victims always wondering if they might be dealing with another "joker". [I have seen no evidence to support this theory.]

Several of us have a lad who KNOWS he was baited and yet he is still trying his bestest to get money out of the baiters who still have him.

I like to just leave them wondering...

Just like the poll...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Burning a lad can be a bait in itself. If a lad finds Eater, and/or figures out that you've been messing with him the whole time, that doesn't mean you have to tell him the truth.
I think it's hilarious to tell them that we get paid for baiting.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Never-ever.

But I guess burning a couple of lads during a baiters career is acceptable, if done for a really good reason.
(haven't done it myself yet)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
Did you post the original gay mugu bait??? Is there a linky??

Some is in the [email protected] [email protected]@ris trhread, and search for "Lavendar lad" for pieces of it. I posted some of it in Premium out of a fear I would lose this lad (four months to get him to pack his bags).

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