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AEarhart51
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Appropos of nothing I got the following letter:

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Subject: BE HAPPY WITH ME OK
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:06:32 -0000 (GMT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Delivered-To: [email protected]
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Message-Id: <[email protected]>
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my dear how are you today

I am very happy to inform you about my success in
getting that fund Now, I want you to contact my
secretary with this information below NAME; Mr.FRED WILLIAMS
EMAIL([email protected])in a bank draft, which I kept for your
compensation. contact him on this tel phone +234-70-349-605-99
email([email protected]) contact him immediately and let me
know as soon as you recieve it ,so that we can share the joy together,i am
very buisy here in Paragua for investment project with my own share ,

Regards

ISAAC JOHN

BE HAPPY WITH ME OK
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I replied:

My dearest isaac,

I am so sorry and that fund papers must have got lost when I had a small house fire due to high winds, and could you please remind me of which fund. I really need the money since my wealthy husband passed away and his fortune is frozen in situ because of devious relatives trying to claim it. Soon all will be set and the monies released to me and i will be free to invest with you since I know nearly nothing of finance and investing.

PLEASE mail back to me soon. i am confused.

Yours in God
A.Earhart

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This is all I got back. I'm rather insulted at the brusque tone. Why doesn't Isaac want to talk to me,and why is he palming me off on Fred Williams? Crying or Very sad This is my first attempt at creating a dialogue, so maybe I said something wrong?
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My Dear Earhart

Thanks you very much for your mail
you should forward mr .fred williams
Your fully name
Your current address
Your phone number
Once the above information is completed him will start the process sending the money through diplomatic courier service to your doorstep as soon as possible. and the money isthe sum of $950,000 (Nine Hundred
and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars).
i told him about that will send the check to you as soon as you send the full information ok
Thanks and God bless you
Have a nice day
mr isaac jonh
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's probably one of a few things:
Firstly he may not like using that original address for anything other than his initial contact. If he is fairly organised he will want all of his "live" victims in a different account, just to keep things tidy.
Secondly, it could be just to add to the illusion that someone more professional is handling your case, which just serves to fool you, the victim, more.
Thirdly, it could be that he is a low level lad that is passing you on to his boss, and he doesn't have the authority to handle you any further.
And a last possibility is just that he wants you to stick to the script and is uncomfortable with you doing anything out of the ordinary.

If you're straight baiting, just do as he says and let him think he's got the upper hand. If you want some wacky fun with him, email the second guy and then take offence at something he says. Go back to your original lad and confide in him that the second character was a pain in the ass that you couldn't work with.

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AEarhart51
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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If you want some wacky fun with him, email the second guy and then take offence at something he says. Go back to your original lad and confide in him that the second character was a pain in the ass that you couldn't work with.


I really like that option! Laughing

It just seems odd, since Isaac's first email has better grammar, etc. than the second, but maybe he wrote the latter on the fly!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's unlikely he wrote the first letter himself. They work off scripts.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's not unusual for the initial scam letter (the format) to ask you to contact someone on 'a private email address' or something like that. Mugatu hit several of the common reasons. Another good reason for a lad to do this is that the bombing accounts frequently get shut down. The lad might send his format out to thousands of addresses - some of those addressees will report the lad to Yahoo, or the mail provider will shut down the account on their own because it looks like spamming. The simple step of providing an alternate email address helps ensure that any potential victims can stay in contact if the bombing account is closed.

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AEarhart51
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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some of those addressees will report the lad to Yahoo,


I see! That's understandable since I'm one of the addressees who has reported scam emails in the past.

I took Mugatu's advice and wrote to Fred, including a mild complaint about Isaac. Obviously neither of them has ever heard of Amelia Earhart. Laughing
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My Dear Mr. Williams

Your partner mr. Isaac directed me to write you for details on my fund I am to recieve from you. I tell you what I told him - my documents were burned in a small house fire and my deceesed husbands fortune is being delayed by greedy relations. BUT all will soon be in place for me to use my fund for investment purpose. This is where you come in. Please I am really anxious to start since I am a widow alone and do not know much about investing. YOur guidence is wanted and needed since I have no one to trust.

I hope this mail finds you well and that we can do good business together. I must tell you that Mr. Isaac was not very warm or polite to me in his second mail. This is making me hesitat so please let me know all is well.

Yours in God who I trust
Amelia D. EArhart
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It's very common for your mugu to sort of pass you around to other addresses, sometimes 2 or 3 before you even get to the payment request. The reasons listed above are all good possibilities.

If you want to throw a monkey wrench into their gears, you can sometimes go back to your original lad and say something like "I thought this was confidential. How many people are involved here anyway" and act like you don't trust outsiders (esp. lawyers Smile). The lad will either drop you for being too much work or make special arrangements to keep the game going. Making these guys do everything your way is one of the fine pleasures of baiting!

And here's a hint: If your mugu ever threatens to drop you, it's a total bluff. These guys never outright refuse money. Only when a lad goes silent is he really dropping you, and then you can re-bait him later on if you want.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ When I first started baiting, I had a couple of lads threaten to drop me, and then follow through. Granted, I was pushing a rather wacky church bait on them.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ AEarheart51

That's a standard format for lads who have mass mailed people to help them "get money out of Nigeria".
When you didn't help him (maybe he never mailed at all at the time), he is suggesting you tried to help him, and his "secretary" has a cheque for you. You must of course pay a fee to get it.
Fred Williams and I go way back. He is responsible for some material in my sig line.
There are heaps like him in the repository under business.

http://www.repository.izone.me.uk/repository.pl

I usually mass mail them from another address and try to get a bank account. They are a productive group.

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AEarhart51
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
Fred Williams and I go way back. He is responsible for some material in my sig line.


Awesome! I hope the line isn't the one about being murdered the next morning. Laughing
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