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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The first one has got some crazy bonds on it, weird lines, regular thick lines... The second one is also strange. with 2 cooh groups and attached by a hydrogen bond? maybe I should study more.....and 2 1/2 water? how is that possible? theres 3 atoms in water!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

alcohol? maybe scotch?
no that cant be it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Black hole is just a MASSIVE gravity well. Everything that "falls" into it is squeezed into a mathematical singularity. Some theories believe there are white holes, which spit out info received from a black hole, but this is pretty unlikely.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

2 1/2 h2o would that be light water ...like what used is a light water breeder reactor


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The bit on the left is codine. I'll leave the rest to an interested reader Laughing

Edit: Hydrocodone bitartrate... although I didn't really need to look hard for it Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The nodes would have six separate wormholes which connect to six different nodes. That's what I meant by that.

And the nodes are powerd with EPR generators, which rely on the Think Tank's discovery that quantum jitter is not truly random but can to some extent be predicted, thereby allowing one to extract energy from otherwise empty space. It's like a stock market, buying just before the market rises and then selling just before it starts to fall.

And yes, that is based on fictional science, but oh well.


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Also, when establishing a new wormhole connection, both sides must be communicating. They simultaneously create half of the wormhole, which then "snap" together to form the wormhole. If a third party is intercepting communications and creates a third half of the wormhole closer to one end, the wormhole will be created between the third party's station and the second station. Of course, this would require large amounts of resources to build a node, which most common criminals can't come up with.


Also, there are no aliens except a few non-sentient species, but humans have populated the galaxy and splintered off into smaller groups. There is one major nation which encompasses most of the Milky Way; it is based on Corannon, which is one of the only systems with two inhabitable planets whose orbits are at a 90 degree angle with one another. The rest are mostly small clans, occupying usually anywhere from 50 to 100 systems.

The Andromeda expedition hopes to set up a wormhole to Andromeda to facilitate colonization and, hopefully, intelligent alien contact.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Prefer C2H5OH myself.




PS thats the formula for Vicodin that Reprob8 posted Packman

So once you've got the FTL or warp or jumpgates, whats going to be happening in this sci fi world ?

I like the idea of these great minds getting together and co operating> Usually they've got such massive egos and are so competitive that they wont speak to one another, or are posting wild and wonderful theories on the Internet
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Read the edit^

I probably should have posted it separately, but oh well.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Isn't the hyperspace/warpdrive thing too complex?


Damn right! Just surround the entire ship with an SEP field & stop worrying about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

well dont i just feel like a idjit...which is pretty much a normal day for me

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorrry. had to nip out for a minute.
It sounds interesting Hacker.
To be honest most of the folk in this universe aren't going to be worrying about the science of how they get from A to B.
Space ship comes, they get on, they get home with the shopping
I mean most of us use cars but how many know the working of the internal combustion engine ( yeah yeah I know SOME do but most dont )
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

But if I have everything planned out, it'll be a lot easier to be consistent. That's one of the problems with Star Trek... the technology changes slightly but fundamentally every few episodes.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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but that would upset einstein, and we wouldnt want to undo such an eminent persons work in your 24th century galaxy


Einstein also said "Everything is just a theary and for evary theary there will besomeone who has a theary that prove it wrong."

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

can't type but the quote is close

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've just had a fantastic idea. And I bags it.

Take the permanent wormholes idea - trivial power to maintain, reasonable power to create and targetable anywhere in the Universe.

Make the end-point programmable, and allow certain information through about the end-point. eg you can remotely detect the gravity gradient, but you can avoid the heat and material coming through if you don't want it. Make it fail-safe. Maybe if conditions on the two ends are too different there is a barrier effect between the two that requires increased energy to defeat.

Have software that can search for a viable end-point from a random start position.

Now open-source the hardware and the software. Make it very cheap.

Anyone can have one in their basement. Anyone can go exploring, maybe get killed, maybe find a planet made of diamonds. Anyone can have as many planets of their own as they want. There's not even any need to stake a claim, since the chances of two people settling the same planet are tiny. On the other hand, interesting and rare coordinates would be worth a lot of money. Some people spend all day every day surfing the Universe, looking for coordinates that will pay.

Other people spend all day chasing after wormholes that are letting dangerous things in, or precious things out.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
the technology changes slightly but fundamentally every few episodes.


Much like the world today.


I come from an era in the UK where we had 2 stations on black and white TV,
you were lucky if you had a radiogramme to play LPs on,
not all houses had phones,
computers were big massive things that needed thier own air conditioned room (and had less memory than my mobile phone)
slide rules and log tables were the norm in maths classes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@thud: That sounds familiar for some reason. Maybe we should call that idea...


DARPAverse?


Apologies to those not familiar with the history of the Internet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Thud,
Maintaining an open wormhole needs bigass-starloads of energy.
Actually it's believed that there are small wormholes created and destroyed around us constantly, since wormholes are very unstable, they get destroyed if ANYTHING enters it(some kind of radiation or wave or subatomic particle).

EDIT: My 500th post :*

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Congrats on the 500th post.
Of course wormholes open and close all the time, its where all the biros go, See link
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You realize, of course, since it's going to be the 24th century we are going to need to fudge some stuff... like "self-maintaining" wormholes, where a chain reaction in the wormhole lining, triggered by a small amount of energy, produces a storm of particles which holds the wormhole open. And kurat, yes I do realize it's not "technically" self maintaining. But is it OK to be a little imprecise? Please?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think we missed a bit - by the 24th century all tech will have advanced beyond comprehension just like a modern coffee maker to a 17th century sailor would make no sense whatsover.

Also whats your society going to be like? what are there values, the values will define there needs and such as there aspirations, if there a peaceful, content people then all they will need is local space travel to hotels on the moon, a fast space elevator could achieve that lol.

If there a curious bunch there going to aspire for knowledge so you will need ships able to do some complex stuff like sit near black holes.

Mankind will always need traders, so some of the vehicles will be transportation of goods, perhaps by 24th century teleportation is possible - no need for any craft just point and aim lol. I dont like teleportation not only is it too star - trekkie, its too old fashioned, any serious transport would need guns big planet busting guns - space lads lol.

Tourism, just transplant all the current industries, make the scale intergalactic and advance it a bit and you have an accurate representation of life in 24th century, some should be fun, like the mugu toilet, a robotic hand wipes the bottom lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@kurat Congratulations on the 500.

Yes, I'm fudging and handwaving.

You're not kidding when you say the energy is quite large. ten billion suns does seem a little excessive.

I follow all three of Clarke's laws.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@digital one- The values will be basically the same as today's society. I don't think human values will change that much in two or three hundred years.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Human values have changed LOADS in the last 200 - 300 hundred years... Shocked

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^^^ Yes, values have changed. For example, I nearly always flush the crapper after taking a dump. 2 or 300 years ago I would have just flung the effluence out of a window into the street. Now I only reserve that for special occasions.

So what sort of human values will change?

I suggest that in another 2 or 300 years time, we will all be able to balance the material wonders of technology against our own personal human spirituality. That we will have a raised conciousness of the desired needs and wants of others.
And that we will no longer fart in bed and stick our wives' heads under the covers.

Utopia beckons.

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