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Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I live overseas and just received this as part of a mass-mail from the US Consular in my country. Thought it might be interesting to post here. Has anyone run across these goobers from Ambassador Care?

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MEDICARE SCAM

Medicare covers medical services only performed in the United States.

Recently, some Social Security retirees have been contacted and told that if they enroll into Ambassador Care that Medicare will extend its coverage overseas. This is not true.

We believe that Ambassador Care uses a United States address for billing purposes and tries to bill Medicare as if services were performed in the United States. The bottom line is that Medicare doe not reimburse for services performed outside the United States. This company is using deceptive practices and has been referred to the Office of Inspector General for possible prosecution.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They have a website, here:

http://www.ambassadorcare.com/home.html

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Medicare International is now
Ambassador Care

We are an international managed healthcare company. Our network of doctors and hospitals is multinational. Our focus is on the international community of millions of retired seniors and pensioners residing as guests of foreign lands.


http://www.medicareinternational.com/home.html

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

And what crap looking lad websites those are too. Perhaps time for a kill!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mr Green sent me a PM with regards to getting the site closed down, I will post my reply here as it contains the Who-Is for the domains, and why I think it's better left to the US Consulate/Office of Inspector General to be left to deal with it

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Hi Mr Green, these will not be as easy to kill as say, a fake bank website, with fake banks and other fakers, they use fake registration names and addresses, stolen credit cards to register the domain names, personal numbers and mobile phones instead of landlines on their contact pages, have fake login pages leading to fake bank account pages etc etc

These care websites will not have any of those things to be able to report as an indicator of fraud, you report will be based solely on what the US Consulate said in the email that was sent to you, and then the webhosts will be asking, so why have the US Government not closed them down, especially when the medicareinternational.com site has been online since 2003, and the newer ambassadorcare.com domain was registered in 2006, as can be seen in the domain Who-Is lookup below.

If this has only just come to the attention of the US authorities, and if as they say, they have referred it to the Office of Inspector General for possible prosecution, I would just leave it at that and let them take action, which if found to be fraudulent, the sites will go down sooner or later.



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Ambassador Care
www.ambassadorcare.com (whois)
209.235.221.67, (reverse ip), ns3.inetu.net., INETu, Inc.

Domain Name: AMBASSADORCARE.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS3.INETU.NET
Name Server: NS4.INETU.NET
Status: ok
Updated Date: 23-feb-2007
Creation Date: 24-mar-2006
Expiration Date: 24-mar-2008


Domain name: ambassadorcare.com

Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ambassadorcare.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ambassadorcare.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ambassadorcare.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Status: Active

Name Servers:
ns3.inetu.net
ns4.inetu.net



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Ambassador Care
www.medicareinternational.com (whois)
209.235.221.67, (reverse ip), ns3.inetu.net., INETu, Inc.

Domain Name: MEDICAREINTERNATIONAL.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS3.INETU.NET
Name Server: NS4.INETU.NET
Status: ok
Updated Date: 06-mar-2007
Creation Date: 04-apr-2003
Expiration Date: 04-apr-2008


Domain name: medicareinternational.com

Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O medicareinternational.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O medicareinternational.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O medicareinternational.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Status: Active

Name Servers:
ns3.inetu.net
ns4.inetu.net

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