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 Question about accounts (NOT cashbait)

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john.dorian74
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've noticed on some of the letters that the scammers give out their financial information so that you can wire the money.

I'm curious; how do they know that you won't drain their account?

Or is the financial info they provide fake?
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Tsnerd
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Most people, being fairly honest, wouldn't know the first thing about committing that type of fraud.

However, if you get that type of information from a lad, there are things that can be done to the account to make the lad's life difficult- namely getting it suspended and investigated by financial and LEO authorities.

Please pass those types of emails, with the bank info pasted up top and headers, to [email protected]

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john.dorian74
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Who is alan?

I guess what a baiter can do is hold onto the "real" bank info and forward that account information to another scammer. Have scammers scam each other...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Adding to what TSnerd said above, when a lad provides you with an account number, chances are fairly strong that:
1)He is using fake ID to open the account;
2) He won't have much $$ in it. Whatever the minimum opening balance is.

It's there for the victim to transfer money into, and when that happens, the lad usually quickly cashes out, thus making the transaction all the more permanent.
He may even close the account, then wash, rinse, repeat with a new account for a new scam.

It's still a good idea to report it to Alan, then delay as long as you can before "transferring" the money.
In my experience, it takes anywhere from 4 - 10 days to close a lad's bank account.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No.

I really mean this politely, but the thing to do with real financial information being used by lads in their scams is to pass the information to alan.

You can read about him and why we report this information to him here:
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119780

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I appreciate the information guys. I'm new at this and I'm really having fun. But I'm a computer guy so I want to know the details.

Thanks for the heads up.

Reading up on Alan...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi John,
"Alan" here is the legal solution to have that account checked, registered and if possible closed a.s.a.p. If it is a victims account the law will inform the owner of what is happening there and if it is a real lad account or a borrowed account it will be investigated. So any real account info will help to shut your "friend" down or cause him financial distress, even if it is a victims account. Smile
Your job is to stall your "friend" for a week or so and than claim that you paid, but there was something wrong with his account and the payment came back. He might provide a new account and then we rinse and repeat again.
Alan is a law officer who is specialized in this and has lots of accounts closed in the fastest way possible.
So send him the info and emails with header. Good catch!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

John (and other new members)

Read the post from TSnerd. It provides the information about Alan. He will do what he can to either (a) warn a true vic that their account is being used in a scam or (b) close the lad's account if it is being used for fraud. That is the fastest way to deal with when a lad sends you real account details.

No it does not earn you a "flag" in your siggy line. I challenge all new members to find out how to do that and earn at least one Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You can go to this nifty site HERE.

It a baiter-created site that "tracks" your fictitious bank transfer. As you can see, you can "set" it to a number of final responses. I find it delays my Phone Lads while His Alaness flushes their bank accounts. When they ask you "to send slip okay" you simply ask them if they received the confirmation e-mail. Then you can forward your own confirmation e-mail.

I even tried the "complaint/contact" linkypoo because I lost the baiter control panel from my bookmarks, and the creator has not been around.

A day later, I received a nice e-mail telling me how concerned the organization was to my difficulties!

The idea is to keep delaying the Lads, then wondering why their bank account is closed, collect more . . . delay . . . lather, rinse, repeat.

My record is four accounts from the same Phone Lad. He keeps coming back. I am trying for five.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It would be exceedingly difficult to 'drain' someone's bank account (for you, me, a lad or anyone else) by having the sort of information that 419ers typically ask for or provide (account#, routing # etc.). This information is requested by the lad to assess a potential maga's gullibility or provided by the lad to receive funds.

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