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lambrum
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all,

I'm new to this site and have been reading with interest about scam baiting.

I was contacted a while ago by a russian calling herself Nastya.

A few details.

-I live in Italy and at first she was writing to me in Italian (in a very formal, old fashion form that nobody uses anymore...).

-The letters were obviously scripted, she even sent me the same letter twice and in one left ______, forgetting to put my name.

-Does this necessarily mean she's a scammer? If a Russian women is genuinely looking for a man and she's doesn't speak good english, i imagine she could still use a script.

-She hasn't got to speaking about money yet.
-She told me her parents died in a car crash.
-She told me that she uses an internet caffe which is expensive.
-She complains constantly about her city being dangerous.
-She has refused my request of a photo with my name even though she's sent me 100's of pictures.

-I'm not sure if I've given out personal details and she has my personal e-mail, so maybe its better I don't use her as my first ever bait.

Before I give out her details I want to be sure she is a scammer and that I won't be giving grief to an innocent girl...
[img]Image[/img]

the pussy shot...

[img]Image[/img]

pretty girl whoever she is....

Greetings road XXXX, I missed on you very strongly. My sun yesterdaywhen I have laid down sleeps I could not to fall asleep and I haddream, at all dream simply I has presented, as though all was at ourswith you to the first meeting. My kind friend I understand, that youalready, probably, too thought of how it will be, in fact it so isinteresting to learn very close person, to write so long and at last along-awaited meeting. My tender friend I so am afraid to bedisappointed once again, but I trust you and I trust. You good and youvery much like me, therefore I am confident you. But we still haveenough time to learn each other better. Now each your letter for mevery pleasant message and I wait for it with such impatience.I wish to tell to you a little about the city more in detail. It is innorthwestMari El. On criminal ??c??????? our city takes the second place aftercity Yoshkar-Ola on republic Mari El. Going after work at us in the....

Not sure what "road" is!

Greetings my kind and true friend. Mine ____________!!!Your letter for me as if a ray of light in a dark empire. I have justcome from stomatology. My angel, I'm fine, but I almost at all do notfeel the jaw, but the tumour on a cheek has completely disappeared. Mydarling, in general, with me everything is all right. My darling allhas passed well, the doctor was very good, and was completely notsick, the truth I now cannot eat and drink 3 hours at all that!!! Butnot that I am not hungry. There are no three hours than that the toothhurted better.

Not sure if she's a bit of a sci fi fan but all this talk of "dark empires"... She also refers to me as her "angel, the keeper". Confused

Anyway what do you think?

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wayne and Murry are the experts here, but I can tell you DON'T bait from your personal email addy. To find out if she's a scammer, I would create a gmail account with a fake name and email her saying you saw her profile on a dating site and are interested.

If she sends you back different pics, that's a dead giveaway it's a scam. In fact, if she responds with the same form letters again, it's probably a scam.

Most of them take their time to set their hooks in their vics before they ask for money. At least the better ones do.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

"road" is a badly translated word, usually meaning love, dear, darling or something similar. The quick n dirty way to look for clues is to post up the email headers. If you look in the noob love bait sticky thread (that sounds so dirty!!!) you'll see directions on how to find headers.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What is it with vlads and their pu... I mean cats. Has anyone NOT baited a vlad that hasn't produced a picture of a furry friend?

I actually give a mild slap saying I hate cats and so you have a decision to make if you live with me. Most end up with the grandparents.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This one loves her pussy... She's sent me about 4 or 5 photos of it by itself Confused Having its belly tickled, sitting on a chair...

I've been trying to get the headers from hotmail, but I'm having no luck. Just going to have to let it go.

What were you're opinions? 100% defo scammer?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My opinion is scammer. But then I'm cynical and jaded, having been here awhile now. I make even real life contacts prove to me they're real now!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The instructions for getting headers using both the old and new style Hotmail are in the thread. From what you've posted, I'd say it's pretty likely to be a scammer, but that's only a guess given the information we have so far. If you get really stuck finding the headers, then you can PM me and I'll talk you though it.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cracked it! Thanks Wayne.

Here it is...

X-Message-Delivery: Vj0zLjQuMDt1cz0wO2k9MDtsPTA7YT0w
X-Message-Status: n:0
X-SID-PRA: [email protected]
X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFPyR7gf3pHC/WmuAXbJCxSeqVp+xQAIaAX6HAHQBJOD6bGJKR+XIUhuyffsHPIz4aDDWMHMtavOg==
Received: from smtp110.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.102.73]) by bay0-mc11-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668);
Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:18:45 -0700
Received: (qmail 26281 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 20:18:44 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
h=Received:Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:X-Priority:Message-ID:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type;
blowout causing line snipped. TS
Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) ([email protected] with plain)
by smtp110.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2007 20:17:32 -0000
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:01:24 -0700
From: [email protected]
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Professional
Reply-To: [email protected]
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----------5F10916E23A5EDA7"
Return-Path: [email protected]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2007 20:18:45.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[1408F920:01C8167B]
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yikes! If that's yours, edit out your email addy. And it's got The Bat in there, that means Russian scam, right Wayne? Oh and you should put some enters in where it's running off the page so we don't have to scroll right to read.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Help! What's my addy and how do I edit it out?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Is beautyrule you or the scammer?

To edit your post, up in the top right hand corner of it you'll see an Edit button. Click on it, make your changes and Submit.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The scammer... I cancelled out my e-mail address before I posted.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Professional


SCAMMER!!

Quote:
-She told me that she uses an internet caffe which is expensive.


Not if you see The Bat! in the headers she ain't

Quote:
71.56.9.242


Comcast in the USA. Spoofed header. Scammer. Does that clear it up?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There ya go lambrum, but still use the edit feature to fix the page blow out.

Wayne you are so good!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nice work. Please feel free to bait him/her now that the address is up.

Cheers everyone. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Professional

They will all be expecting gifts now! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Christmas Edition thing just means it was released - imaginatively enough - Christmastime. Ritlabs do this every year. This particular version was released Jan 11th 2006 and seems to be a bugfix for the 3.64 version which was released Dec 22nd 2005. Too much information? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ the interesting thing about "the bat!" is it's a perfectly ligate program.
Lots of scammers well just about all the Russian ones use it.
It looks like it has some great features that we could use.

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The Bat! - a popular email client that allows to work with unlimited number of the mailboxes, has powerful sorting filters, fully customizable message templates, Mail Dispatcher and many more other features.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes indeedy. It could easily be used as an autobaiter if someone has the time to make the scripts.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Could this be our next project Question

I am sure between us we have a good supply of material that could be used

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I started looking at it a while back. I'm a bit busy at the moment.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hmm would be a good idea if we did eventually use this tool, would make life a lot easier for us...
@lambrum - ill bait her, could do with a slightly different bait instead of the lottery/"my husband died and want to give sh*t loads of money away" scams

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I actually suggested it in a thread back in April looking to make an autobaiter, but it got ignored.

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Why not look to the vlads for inspiration. This is pretty much the technique they use for their romance baits using The Bat!, pre existing scripts and macros to change the names.


NOW
maybe you'll learn to accept the fact I'm all knowledgeable!! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I wasn't here in April and when I started I knew nothing of an autobaiter so even if I did see your post I wouldn't have understood it.

Sometimes the suggestion just needs to come from someone else, like the noob sticky that Harrya suggested Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all,

Anyone fancy helping Nastya with her travel arrangements as she would like to come to my funeral? Laughing

(I'm bit gutted how well she's taken the news of my death... Crying or Very sad )

My intention was to kill off a fake name I set up and had her risponding to and try and get some out of her for admin fees etc. However, I'm not a good enough baiter to do this and so would like to hand her over.

I'll post up the fake gmail and password if anyone's interested.

There's also this one who's found her way into my inbox, but she only writes to me in Italian... Sure she must have some english scripts too.

Funny how they're all orphans over there Rolling Eyes

[email protected] Anastasiya.
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