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redshoes17
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This lad is the one using his own children's pictures to scam people. He made the mistake of sending me a very short porn clip just to show my character what he liked in bed. It came without any warning and I've been baiting him with a very religious character for some months so I was very surprised.

As a result my character went to a bar the night he showed this to her and was drugged and woke up alone in a hotel room.

I have edited out the lad's children's names.


Quote:
F: the test results are mostly negative
Lad: oh no
F: the one test wasn't negative
Lad: which one is that?
F: i don't know how to tell you
Lad: come on honey
Lad: u know i love u
Lad: u can tell me everything
F: not this
F: you need to forget about me
Lad: F PLEASE DONT BREAK MY HEART THIS EVENING OK
Lad: PLEASE
Lad: I'VE BEEN THERE FOR U
Lad: I HAVE FORGIVEN U
Lad: I LOVE U NO MATTER WHAT HAS HAPPEND
F: I know but this is too terrible
Lad: WHY DO U WANT TO BREAK MY HEART NOW
Lad: PLEASE TODAY IS SUNDAY
Lad: COME ON THERE IS NOTHING HARD FOR GOD
Lad: IS THERE ANYTHING HARD FOR HIM?
F: please, understand
Lad: DO U REALLY LOVE ME AT ALL?
F: i am too ashamed to tell you
Lad: DO U?
F: please understand
Lad: DO U REALLY LOVE ME AT ALL?
Lad: DO U?
Lad: ANSWER ME PLEASE
F: you know i do
Lad: U SURE U REALLY DO?
F: but do you understand me
Lad: NO
Lad: AND I DONT WANT TO
Lad: F I LOVE U
Lad: PLEASE I AM A CHRISTAIN AND I DONT WANT TO DISOBEY WHAT THE BIBLE SAY WE SHD DO
F: Lad’s name, i believe you, i know you have forgiven me
F: it's not that
Lad: U BEEN IN MY HEART SINCE WE BECAME FRIENDS BR4 WE EVEN BECAME LOVERS
Lad: ARE U PREGNANT?
Lad: IS THE TEST PROVED IT?
Lad: ARE U?
F: y
F: so you see why
Lad: TELL ME THE TRUTH?
Lad: ARE U?
F: y
Lad: U SURE?
F: you see why i can't tell you or be with you now
Lad: NO
Lad: U ARE MINE F
Lad: THERE IS NO PULL OUT IN THIS RELATIONSHIP TILL GOD SAY SO
Lad: F
Lad: I SO SORRY THIS HAD HAPPEND JUST BECOURSE OF ME
Lad: I SHOULDN'T HAVE SENT U THAT VIDEO
Lad: BABY I'M SOOOOO SORRY OK
Lad: I STILL LOVE U NO MATTER WHAT
Lad: OK
F: Lad’s name, that's in the past,
F: we are beyond that
Lad: I KNOW THIS HAPPEND COS OF THE VIDEO RITE?
Lad: F
F: but this isn't your baby
Lad: DO U KNOW THE FATHER?
F: no
F: how could i?
Lad: AND DO U HAVE A FATHER FOR HIM?
F: no
Lad: DO U KNOW I HAVE KIDS TOO?
F: yes
Lad: ARE THEY UR BABYS?
F: no
Lad: DIDN'T U TELL ME THAT U LOVE THEM COS I KNOW U LOVE ME TOO?
F: yes
Lad: THEN WILL U ACCEPT ME TO BE THE FATHER OF THAT KID?
F: what are you saying?
Lad: YA
Lad: U HEAD ME RITE
Lad: F
F: you would be this child's father?
Lad: I WILL BE THE FATHER OF THE KID OK
Lad: I KNOW
Lad: ABORTION IN SOMETHING THAT ITS AGAINST MY RELIGION
Lad: SO U SEE
Lad: DO U WANNA KEEP IT?
F: Lad’s name, i could never have an abortion
F: what else can i do?
Lad: GOOD
Lad: F I WANNA SEE U
Lad: PLEASE
Lad: I NEED U
F: see me?
Lad: YA
Lad: WHERE ARE U NOW HON
F: how?
F: in the hospital
Lad: STILL IN THERE?
Lad: OH NO
F: they won't let me leave
Lad: F
Lad: WHY?
F: i have to gain some weight first
Lad: U SEE WHAT U'VE BEEN DOING TO UR SELF?
Lad: I TOLD U TO EAT SOMETHING HON
Lad: EAT FOR ME
Lad: PLEASE
F: you will love this baby the same as “edit lad’s children’s names”?
Lad: WHY NOT
Lad: BABY U ARE MY LOVE
F: tell me then
F: tell me that
Lad: AND I HAVE TO LOVE EVERYTHING OF U N THAT COMES OUT OF U
Lad: F
Lad: I WISH I CAN COME OVER THERE NOW TO SHOW U HOW I DEEPLY LOVE U IN MY HEART
Lad: WORD ALONE CAN'T TELLS IT ALL
Lad: F WOULD LIKE TO COME TO GHANA AND SPENT SOME FEW DAYS WITH ME AND LATER WE CAN GO TOGETHER
F: you must tell me
Lad: ?
Lad: CAN U?
F: i would like that
Lad: PLEASE IF U DO THIS,I WILL NEVER EVER FORGET THIS IN MY LIFE TIME
F: you must tell me
Lad: I DISCUSSED THIS WITH UR MUM TOO AND SHE SAID SHE THINK U WILL LIKE TO
Lad: TELL U WHAT MY LOVE
F: how you would love this child
Lad: F U KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE U
Lad: I WILL LOVE HIM LIKE HOW I LOVE “edit lad’s children’s names”
Lad: I WILL CARE FOR HIM,DO EVERYTHING FOR HIM AS WELL AS I WILL DO FOR “edit lad’s children’s names”
F: maybe it will be a girl
Lad: WOW
Lad: I WILL LOVE HER MOST
Lad: BELIEVE ME


The remainder of the discussion was about baby names.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Absolutely brilliant!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

RS, I hope you picked out some very interesting baby names. I think a slap or penance is warranted for the lad changing to all caps during your chat.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He must have seen his geese fly away...I mean he must slap himself for that stupid romance scam modality "do not!"- mistake! Baiting a religious character with ... tsk tsk! Now he has to bear the consequences - together with you! (which shows how deeply he is in the net) - great lad work! You should post more about this special boy!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is brilliant. I would love to see more of this bait, I'm curious as to the twists and turns this one may take.

My lad is also in the process of picking out baby names - this is for the baby that my character is going to "give" him. He's come up with some great ones so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ josslyn I would love to publish more of this one. He's been quite entertaining but I am reluctant to publish much here. This is one of the scam warning sites he gave me when I convinced him I had boyfriend in Nigeria. That was back when he loved me like a sister.

I met two on a dating site in one day. This was was the second one so I told him I already found someone and just sort of played along with him. He chatted from time to time and I started telling him about the other guy. He followed that romance with great interest until the other guy was boring me and I allowed him to finally convince me the other guy was a scammer.

Eventually we discovered we were more than just friends. His mother got sick and was in the hospital, the drugs cost a lot of money, she died and the funeral cost a lot of money, then one of his kids was sick and in the hospital. Not once has he asked me for money. Only once has he expressed any sort of impatience, he asked me did I realize how much he has spent on phone calls to me. He immediately backed up and said well, you've called me too.

He has sent pictures of himself, him with his kids, him with extended family, at a college graduation, in restaurants, in a hotel swimming pool, etc. He takes taxis, he is obviously better off than most of them I have had contact with.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've got one going like this right now. He's very attentive to details and very polite and patient. I am also playing it as I'm chaste and virtuous and he is too. He goes to church on Sundays and tells me about it, so I decided to convert to his religion and he's teaching me so we can be married in his church. He's just gotten out of the hospital, so he says to explain a lengthy absence, so right now I'm giving him crap about it. All this time he's never mentioned money at all.

These are the guys that really hurt women with their scams, even when they don't get a dime off the vics. It is hard sometimes for me to call him honey and sweetie on the phone when I am so incredibly contemptuous inside my head. Bravo RedShoes!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I know what you mean about these kind being able to hurt women the most. If I didn't know that he is a scammer who is immediately contacting another baiter asking his character to marry him, after I finish chatting with him, I could believe much of what this guy says and sometimes it makes my skin crawl when he is talking on the phone.

My character is a devout Christian and so is he. So every time he tried to bring up sex, I just asked him what the Bible said about that and he backed off every time. That is why I was so shocked when he gave me the video clip without any warning.

The lad can quote Bible verses, tell me about the Sunday scripture message, and discusses songs of faith.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I cannot believe your lads have not asked for money!!! Mine has asked for money more than once and then laid a guilt trip on my character when she failed to send it - of course, it was the sick mother scam.

I know what you all mean by how they can really hurt women. My lad is kind of a jerk, he hasn't even asked my age. But, if I was lonely, like my character, I might fall for his line. If their emails land in a vulnerable woman's inbox, she could be in a for a world of hurt - if not worse. I've read excerpts from both of you, redshoes and baglady, and your lads are better at romancing and a lot of women could fall for their line. His emails aren't that dirty either - he's only bragged a couple of times about his stamina.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think I've run through quite a few romance lads now and I don't work all of them. Some are just to stupid to bother with. I like to go after the ones who are more credible in their initial contacts, first just to get an email from them to be sure they are not who they represent themselves to be. When I know they're scammers then, I work them. I figure if their come in intro is good then they're more likely to hurt someone innocent.

Also, there are quite a few romancers who have bought a good intro script and their initial come on is slick and then it all goes to hell when they're writing on their own. Those I just like to toy with and have fun. I am finding that the really good ones are going very slowly and taking up to 6 months or more to finally get to the money stage and their requests for money are more plausible.

I have several victims that I communicate with and they all say the money was nothing compared to the emotional wreckage left behind.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have three romance lads going since April. Two did not ask for money until the situation presented itself. In both cases, they needed to travel (safari) to meet me. Both claimed poverty and asked for a relatively small amount of money, but claimed they needed more than required. One completed 100 1TV5 questions two times then got mad and refused to try any more. The other refused to send even a simple trophy picture for the money. While both were stupid and wrote garbage, I could see where a lonely and desperate soul could fall of some of it. Parts of their message makes my stomach turn, but it is a small price to pay for being able to heap mounds of abuse on them. The third lad started to beg for money after about 5 months because his mother was in the hospital. I put an end to that with a series of questions and requests. I would not allow him to lay a guilt trip on me. His mother is suddenly getting much better.

All of these lads are scammers, but they did not request money at the start. They are very patient which allows me to waste a huge amount of their time and resources. In general, lad romance scammers tend to move slowly while vlads get to the money very quickly.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've also, at times, had the queasy stomach due to what he's written. After he wrote his email proclaiming his wonders in the sack, I had to step back for a day or so. I bounced back and got with the program and I think my last email will knock his socks off when he gets to the internet cafe in a few hours Laughing . This is my first bait so I'm quite green. I received the straight 419 letter and it evolved into a romance which is probably why he asked for money after about 3 weeks.

I'd love to bait a romance lad because I'm constantly having to dodge reasons why I can't send him money.

They must all use the sick mother scam. I also asked tons of questions but he stuck with his story. Apparently, my future mother-in-law has high blood pressure which requires expensive medication.

Does anybody else have a husband, or a significant other, that has gotten a bit jealous? My husband knows and understands what I'm doing, he saw it on Dateline, but when he saw one of my lad's emails, I could tell he didn't like it that much. Basically, this is my thing while his is hockey.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What I'm finding that I like best about playing these guys is that I live in the US and am really only completely free to chat in my evenings. This means that the most dedicated lads have to do all nighters in internet cafes to chat with me. I keep them online from about 11 pm their time to about 5 am their next day.

Another really cool thing is a good romance lad can't get you totally hooked without voice chatting with you. I have a phone that's anonymously registered. I have told them NOT to call me in the middle of my night and never to block their number in caller ID so I can know who's calling. I don't answer otherwise and they get my recording that reminds them of this when I don't answer. I turn the phone off at night so they learn to obey quickly.

I love wasting their time and money!! They are never getting any of mine.

Edit to answer Josslyn: I don't have a husband but all my friends think I'm nuts and my mother nags me incessantly about the scammers that are going to come kill me. hahaha
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ josslyn

No, I do not have a significant other I am dealing with but my daughter, who does not quite understand, and who will tell me to find a white guy in my country once in a while.

Romance lads are quite easy to find, PM if you want a few.

Don't worry about dodging questions about why you can't send the money. I have a lad now that has a box containing gold dust and gems and who only last Friday had a wife and a daughter who now is hot for my body and wants to move to the states and marry me, the security company and the barrister somehow have been left in the dust. Don't ask me how that happened, I don't know. Very Happy

Again feel free to PM if you have any questions. I am no expert, I haven't been doing this for that long but I have learned a lot and if I can help you I will.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

WOW, my lad has an amazing "work ethic". I've already had an email from him at 7 a.m. (his time). I live in Montreal but I'm American. I have plenty of free time bc I'm waiting on my permanent residency and can't work w/o a visa. I've thought about chatting w/ him but I have to do it v. late, my husband would freak if I was chatting in his presence.

When I first announced to my parents I was going to do this, they totally freaked out. Worried that I would be murdered. They read the first part of my bait and LOVED it, thought it was hilarious.

I am going to pm you guys for advice. I'd also like a lad that is a bit more fun. My lad finds it very difficult to talk about sex and/or romance. He writes what he needs to so he won't lose my character, then it's down to business. I've just written him and am trying to force some good dirty talk out of him and it is taking him FOREVER to reply.

This is good to get my feet wet but I would love to do so much more.

These guys are evil. My lad is claiming that he wants to have a child w/ my character. Imagine if I was a real victim....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

While talking to a lad on the phone is very effective, I've managed to avoid it. It would probably creep me out too much. I have a series of excuses that seem to work. I managed to avoid talking to them even when I was supposed to be in the same country as them.

If are also welcome to PM me with questions or ideas.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

PRS, I know what you mean by it creeping you out by talking to them on the phone. It would make it too real. My character is totally a figment of my imagination, a girl who definitely did not read "The Rules". It's fun to let loose and be totally dysfunctional.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I like to talk to them. I love their attempts to cover or explain their accents. I have only had one turn into an obscene phone call that I actually felt I needed to shower after listening to him. That bait went bad and I've turned him over to Wayne who I am sure will castrate him and feed them to him in due time.

I guess I like talking to them most of all because one of my victim friends is filing for bankruptcy after her scammer left her holding the bag for an $1800 phone bill. I like to watch the clock and see how long I can keep them going.

I assign my lads unique ringtones to their numbers on my phone so the phone rings a certain way and I know which character I should be to answer the phone. Currently I only have three who call. One is sweet and I like talking to him. His ringtone is Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody (I'm his queen), another is a jerk. His ringtone is the Wizard of Oz saying, "I am OZ the great and powerful, who are you?" and the last is a really goofy one and he gets the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz, singing 'If I only had a brain.'

Voice chat is hardly necessary at all and you can do most anything without it, but I think for me it's firmed up my credibility with the smarter ones and maybe made them more secure. All I care is that it's costing them money.

As for sex chat . . . my romancers initiate it more often than not. I only have one that will not talk about it even when I've hinted that I'm open to the subject. He actually told me that if I made him talk about it, he'd have to go out and rape a women after. I let that subject go fast! Sex chat is my least favorite part. I've seen what some of them really look like and it totally puts me off. I usually try to avoid it if possible but if they insist, then the next best fun part is imagining them squirming with a tight crotch in an internet cafe.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Laughing Imaging them in the cafe whilst excited is hilarious.

I think I read an excerpt of that chat - the lad who wrote he'd have to go out and rape a woman.

I read Wayne's chat w/ one of your lads and I LOVED it.

I guess there's a different mindset between the straight 419 scammers and the romance scammers. I cannot get my lad to even talk about sex. I am, at this very moment, trying to goad him into it. He's very stubborn and I don't think I'll be successful. However, I think I can use his reluctance in my bait. My character is flying out tomorrow and, I think, she'll go out during her layover in Germany and go on a major shopping spree. She will do this because of her despair of his refusal to prove his love and, as a result, will miss her connecting flight. Did I mention that my character is not very bright, flighty and has a problem with alcohol?

I would love running up their phone bills. He really wants to call me.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@Joslyn

You can learn heaps from these two evil ladies, (and I say this in the nicest possible way as I respect both as great baiters who are getting better all the time) I am glad I am not on the wrong side of them.

I would urge you to consider telling your man about your baiting. My wife knows what I am up to on the computer and while she doesn't really like it because they might come and get us rather than me chatting up women she does accept what I do.

Explain to him right from the start what they are trying to do to you and other ladies out there and that you are simply out to waste his time and money for both your amusement and to keep him from other women. Show him how it works and maybe include him in toying with them.

You could even show him what Red Shoes and Bag Lady have done with their lads and even encourage him to start having a go at the female charactor scammers.

I have a very open relationship with my wife but I would hate to be in a situation where I had not told her and she thought I was chatting them up when really I am just playing with them and wasting there time.

Of course you know your man better than I do so this is something you need to decide for yourself, I would just hate to see you come back and tell us you had an argument with him in a couple of months time if he catches you out.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This is a great bait Laughing

Putting a lad into an uncomfortable position keeps him off balance and you in control. It's always great to watch them squirm as you keep piling the pressure on them Very Happy

And I've been married for 15 years. We did have a bit of a problem until she understood that 95% of the "women" I talk to are really men, and the stuffI get them to talk about is purely for comedy purposes. She's even taken a call for me from one, but prefers to stay out of it and just read about the things I got them to do here from time to time.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh yes, Wayne, I am loving making him squirm. He is so uncomfortable with the topic of sex and I keep goading him. I feel totally in control at the moment, maybe that's why I like bating Evil or Very Mad.
I've read some of your chats Wayne and LOVED them.

Murry, my husband is aware I'm doing this. Intellectually he understands what I'm doing. We saw all about it on Dateline and he loved it. He just needs to get used to it and, really, I don't discuss it with him in detail. I don't hide it from him either. I don't let it interfer in my real life at all.

You guys here are awesome, I've learned so much from every single person that has posted on this particular thread. I always make a point of reading everything you guys write.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Murry, I don't mind being called evil in that context. If you really want to see "evil" check out this thread. I made a scammer's mommy cry. My lad who is on safari is refusing to come home and momma is not happy. His picture is my avatar right now.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108890&start=375


@ josslyn No these two haven't asked for money because I told them the day I met them I would never give them money, that was in June. I was playing on IM one day and said to both of these guys, "In my experience guys want one of two things on the Internet, sex or money, which one are you?" OF course they both swore they would never ask for either and off we went.


@ OldBaglady Yes, some of them feel that they must speak with you. My lad of this thread was chatting with Mum today, because of F being in the hospital and all and suddenly he is calling my computer. He "knows" mum is using a laptop and doesn't have any idea what a headset or a web cam is. Obviously I can't do voice with him as mum because he would know my voice. So he tells me how to answer him and then he proceeds to come on cam for mum and voice chat with her while mum was typing all of her answers to him. He starts telling mum how sincere his love is for her daughter and how he wishes he could be at her side.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The baby daddy sent gifts. The pictures are here.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124423

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Safari Willy Accra to Abuja to Maiduguri
Safari Floyd Lagos to Abeche with reaper
Safari Dan Benin City to Lagos
Safari ARK Tamale to Kumasi
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I don't need you alone for sex. w1l13

i was ashamed this money money was not in the system when we got there to cash it,it made me and my family lawyer look like little children Godwin

'because no one want your progress not every one want your goat to give birth to twins as the man who see tomorrow told me when i visit him in the shrine Godwin

i was rubbed by rubber last friday, they collectted all my money and my phones.
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