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IboYa
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

www.wtidy.com

He sells very cheap and i dont know if i can trust him,
what do u guys think?

Should i buy something from him?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, their domain name was only registered 12 days ago, so they are not exactly what you would call a long term company, plus their domain is only registered for 12 months, they use a Hotmail email address and among other things, they use Western Union, so I would say NO, do not buy anything from them, if you want to buy cheap goods from Chinese sites, you are going to get ripped off pretty quickly, there are thousands of sites just like that one that spring up every day of the week, the steal money, they buy a new domain and start all over again:

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wtidy.com

Domain Name: WTIDY.COM
Registrar: HICHINA WEB SOLUTIONS (HONG KONG) LIMITED
Whois Server: grs.hichina.com
Referral URL: http://whois.hichina.com
Name Server: DNS15.HICHINA.COM
Name Server: DNS16.HICHINA.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 19-jun-2007
Creation Date: 19-jun-2007
Expiration Date: 19-jun-2008

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johnny5
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Whois's are a good guide but there are also many on-site clues you can use with sites like this.

For example you have to be logged in to buy, and a javascript alert is hardly a graceful way of telling you.

Clicking register and the registration form has "payment: WU, Bank Transfer, visa". So much for the paypal sign that's annoying the crap out of me on the right hand side.

Lets look at the products.
This TV for example. They're using an image from AuctionDrop. It's on sale for 480 euros, which is 322 / $646.
This 10 second search on google products shows that's just a touch low. And "SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA PICK-UP ONLY".. but hang on, they're in China.

This laptop is actually more expensive than the 63 inch tv!
A search for it shows it should be around 1/4 the price. The specs at the bottom are so badly laid out they're almost unreadable.

I think my favourite bit though is on the left "Shoping car". Something things can be lost in translation but if you want me to hand over hundreds of any currency to you, you better make an effort.

Each mistake alone could probably be explained, but put em all together, throw in a bit of common sense and that tells me that even if this was a proper company selling real goods (and I'm 99.999% they aren't) I wouldn't be buying from them.

Mind, the girl at the top is cute Laughing

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lucky777
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hm...
A couple of things I noticed in the beginning:
1.) Layout is f'd up.
2.)[email protected], A hotmail account? Surely you'd have a REAL email account for this business.
3.)The "message board" isn't a real message board.
4.) They stole images form Auction Drop.

But who knows, maybe all this means nothing -- The goods count for the TV is 0 after all.
http://www.wtidy.com/goodsview.asp?bjxGid=2301
goods count: 0 no goods
EDIT: Description seems to be snipped from Auction Drop too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

IboYa wrote:
Should i buy something from him?

The answer to your question has to be a resounding NO.

I think that you'll find that opinion echoed loudly by those who have posted above and anyone else familiar with looking at scams.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Their website lists address as 7F Dimeng Commercial Building, No. 6-2 Hua Yuan Road
Google "Dimeng Commercial Building" everything listed shows Dimeng Commercial Building as being No. 3-2 Hua Yuan Road excepty for this company.

also (on Google) using 7F Dimeng Commercial Building:
www.linkshop666.com (website greatly resembles wtidy.com)
www.sjtcshop.com (you can guess who this looks like also)
www.bjexpoc.com (appears to be dead)
All three of these use 3-2 Hua Yuan Road
linkshop66 & sjtcshop use hotmail and same annoying paypal link.

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lucky777
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Non of them seem to work for me.
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johnny5
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

linkshop666 in google cache
sjtcshop - - alt link
bjexpoc - - alt link

Keep in mind that as these are google caches, they'll be screwed up design.

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lucky777
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ thanks.
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IboYa
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ohh im so happy that i found u guys,
god bless u all Smile

I am a student and were gonne spend my last money on a notebook that i saw there..

Thank u all for ur replys, keep going like that, ur great !!

I will advertise this forum as much as i can.

Bye,
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Join in the fun IboYa why dontcha ?

You can go from zero to hero in a relatively short space of time.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Gomer^--hi from JT--still owe my bunnies to you, thanx

Iboya--welcome aboard.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Laughing A very funny site Laughing
Love it! It's just so fantasticly crap!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Phonelads! This one sells motorbikes also!

Do we have an abuse email template for phonelad websites?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Haha this guy gets the GOOD phonelads

Mine wouldn't even sell me a Giant P3N15 mountain bike! Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My God that Paypal thing is really annoying. Interesting to have us go through the site to check out whether it's real or not, as I don't know if it would have occurred to me for a site like this to be anything except real.

I guess it's an easy scam though to pretend to be selling goods, take a few orders and then disappear off the face of the earth. A slightly different type of post here, but a good example that what we're doing here is a public service as well as simply entertaining.

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johnny5
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The paypal is annoying. But then the 1990s scrollers splattered on the front page compete for the title of supreme MY EYES!! too.

Do you mind if I ask if you might have spotted any of the indicators listed in this thread... and what would suggest to you that the site is real?

To me it's fairly obvious it's either a fake or they need to fire their designers, but that may just be because I'm super cautious (e.g. I often spend a few minutes confirming known legitimate business - I'm super paranoid about who I pay) and I'm just fascinated to what might put your mind at rest... I love the psychology of scams.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well I probably wouldn't actually buy anything from a non-New Zealand site to start with, which does rather cut things down. The fuzzy images did twig things for me a bit too.

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johnny5
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

IboYa wrote:
I am a student and were gonne spend my last money on a notebook that i saw there..

How about you iBoYa, what made you think the site was real?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

johnny5--^

In regard to Iboya--like Marcia Brady, I think 'something suddenly came up' in regard to an inquiry/response-reply from him to you and myself... It doesn't take an agricultural genius to sort out the wheat from the chaff.---It's a duck!

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What a FUCK, for doing this i will make sure by tomorrow i will be in Washington and send the FBI to pick you up where ever you are by all means just believe i must do this and use it as a prove that i am who i am. I give you just 1 hour to take my passport out from that page or eles when i get to Washington there will be no forgiveness just take my word. I will send all boxes and documents covering the boxes in your name to Washington and you will be asked so many question and if possible you will go to Jail with my power i PROMISE I MUST DO IT.
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johnny5
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

.. I have no idea what you just said Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller wrote:
Well, their domain name was only registered 12 days ago, so they are not exactly what you would call a long term company

Not much different from the countless "Brooklyn Crook" online camera rackets that change company names and websites like dirty sox. How I wish there was a Lad Vampire to leech them (see link).

http://donwiss.com/pictures/brooklynstores/

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andrewski
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow, I can get me a 'member ship' there. I bet that's an interesting product.
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Jervis Tetch
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

johnny5--^

Post above reply--meh, somehow it makes sense.

Earlier posting--Do you mean to say that you have a .001% belief that it could be real?

In any event, you have a Bob Barker price-is-right knowledge of appliance prices, use that to your advantage. The Lads are always hot to discuss expensive cameras, watches, labtops [sic], and big TVs.

cheerz--JT

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What a FUCK, for doing this i will make sure by tomorrow i will be in Washington and send the FBI to pick you up where ever you are by all means just believe i must do this and use it as a prove that i am who i am. I give you just 1 hour to take my passport out from that page or eles when i get to Washington there will be no forgiveness just take my word. I will send all boxes and documents covering the boxes in your name to Washington and you will be asked so many question and if possible you will go to Jail with my power i PROMISE I MUST DO IT.
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johnny5
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

To me, the site is quite obviously fake without too much digging, but then I'm very vigilant on any site that wants my money.

I realise that others may not spot the things I do so easily, so I was asking IboYa, or in fact anyone that thinks it could be real, to explain what gives them that impression.

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