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SECURITYOPTIMUM
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Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 9
Location: mass


PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OK SO I DI MY RESEARCH A LIL TOO LATE, I ALREADY POSTEDE AN ITEM FOR SALE ON EBAY, AND I WAS GONNA BUY THIS PHONE FROM THIS GUY NOW I REALLY THINK ITS A SCAM. MY EBAY AUCTION EXPIRES TOMMOROW AND NOW I HAVE NO PRODUCT TO PROVIDE TO WINNING BIDDER THIS IS GOING TO GIVE ME BAD FEEDBACK! WE KNOW OF ALL THE SCAM WHOLSALERS ANYONE REFER ME TO A LEGITITMATE COMPANY??? HERES EMAIL STRING FROM ME AND "COMPANY"
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putianzhaoyang to me
show details 12:27 am (18 hours ago)



It's ok. i am waiting for your order.that's very kind of you.

i just want to do long-term business with you.

To be honest ,i will run my company for myself in some day,so i need more than more fixed customer for long-term business like you .

moreover ,i hope you can make much profit from our deal.

Regards

tony

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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:37:46 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:


no ii is okay tony, you give me your word I TRUST you! I will send you payment via western union next week, today I am in Las Vegas!
Wehn I return i place order to you you drop ship to my customer!


On 8/10/07, OPTIMUM SECURITY <[email protected]> wrote:
i will clarify for you, I tried to purchase from vendor before overseas, i made payment in full to seller and he nerver sent me the goods the product the merchandise. I was very upset because i invested a lot of money and got cheated. So I am very optimistic when dealing with unknown persons online transactions, i must be cautious you know what i mean?


On 8/10/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected] > wrote:

OK, my friend.thank you for your trust.

one question: what do you mean "I HAVE A COMPANY BEFORE NOT SEND GOODS"

Hope we can process the order ASAP.

regards
tony

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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:21:07 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:

OK, TONY, I WANT TO BE SURE. I HAVE A COMPANY BEFORE NOT SEND GOODS. I WILL TRUST YOU. MY ORDER WILL BE READY BY NEXT WEEK AND I WILL SEND YOU PAYMENT. THANK YOU FOR INFO.


On 8/10/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:

how can you said we are scam ? .
we are pressional and golden supplier on alibaba.our glden membership is worth 30 thousand of USD$ in one year.you can look this link : http://shidaitrade.en.alibaba.com/ . so if you don't receive your goods ,you can report our company on alibaba.in that case it will cancelour company membership. got it ? if you don't believe ,you can ask the alibaba website about our company.

ok, i tell you this : Version: 5.01 build 200
s/n: V1Q7-SC97-NNNN-LX-0000-3BFF/A2BE


hope can do long-term business with you.

Regards
tony



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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:02:16 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:


BY SAYING THIS YOU MAKE ME THINK YOU ARE SCAM???
HOW DO I RESELL IF I HAVE NO MODEL NUMBER TO PROVIDE TO MY CUSTOMERS???
DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. i NEED TO KNOW WHAT MODEL I BE SELLING TO MY CUSTOMERS I CANT JUST TSAY OK I HAVE APPLE IPHONE AND NOT HAVE MODEL NUMBR??? DOES NOT MAKE SENSE SIR?
I HAVE ORDERS IN FOR I PHONE. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MODEL OR I FIND ANOTHER VENDOR? MAYBE YOUR BUSINESS IS NOT LEGITITAMATE AND IS SCAM AMERICAN COMPANIES?



On 8/9/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello sir
we won't give you MANFACTURERS MODEL NUMBER befor you make the payment.
it's a kind of business secret.

if you are not real buyer,we will lost that ,then you will be our competitor.

pls understand my meaning.

Regards
tony


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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:06:20 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:


TONY,
PLEASE PROVIDE MANFACTURERS MODEL NUMBER FOR I PHONE???


On 8/9/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:

Ok,here is pictures and description for iphones and next email is pictures and description for Nokia 8800 Sirocco Edition.

our price is including the shipping cost.okay,give you price $250/unit (including the shiping cost) but minimum order 2 untis.


return policy:
IF DEVICE IS DEFECTIVE within one year, you can ship back to us for changing new one for free.

tony


Features for iphone :

1) General network GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
2) Announced 2004, 3Q
3) Status available
4) Size: 98 x 53 x 13.9 mm, 65cc
5) Weight: 95 g
6) Display type TFT, 256K colors
7) Size: 176 x 220 pixels, 9 lines
Cool Second CSTN display (96 x 80 pixels), 4,096 colors
9) Anodized aluminum case
10) Downloadable logos
11) Ring tones type polyphonic (24 channels), MP3
12) Customization composer, download, order now
13) Vibration: yes
14) Memory phonebook 1,000 entries, photo call
15) Call records 10 dialed, 10 received, 10 missed calls
16) Card slot: no
17) 5.5MB internal memory
1Cool Data GPRS class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48Kbps
19) HSCSD: no
20) Edge: no
21) 3G: no
22) WLAN: no
23) Bluetooth: yes, V1.2
24) Infrared port: no
25) USB: yes, mini USB
26) Features messaging SMS, EMS, MMS, e-mail, instant messaging
27) Browser WAP 2.0/ xHTML
2Cool Games skipping stones, golf, billiards + downloadable
29) Colors silver, black (special edition)
30) Camera VGA, 640 x 480 pixels
31) Java MIDP 2.0
32) MPEG4 video
33) T9
34) PIM functions
35) Calculator
36) Currency converter
37) Built-in handsfree
3Cool Battery standard: Li-ion 680mAh (BA700)
39) Stand-by time: up to 280h
40) Talk time: up to 7h
41) Software CD, cardboard/plastic insert and original color box


In The Box:
iPhone
Stereo Headset
Dock
Dock Connector to USB Cable
USB Power Adapter
Documentation
Cleaning/Ploishing Cloth


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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:46:45 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:

SIR CAN U SEND ME PHOTSO OF EACH PHONE SO I HAVE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION FOR MY CUSTOMERS. ALSO FINAL PRICE FOR EACH UNIT AND DOES IT INCLUSE SHIPPING?
ALSO WHAT IS YOUR RETURN POLICY IF DEVICE IS DEFECTIVE?



On 8/8/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:

sure,i know what is normal 8800 black and what is 8800 Sirocco,
as below are the specification and pics for 8800 Sirocco and iphones. and there are some pics in the attachment.

and here is register NUMBER in Business association : 3503042100752

Descriptions of 8800 Sirocco :
About the device itself, the Nokia 8800 Sirocco Edition in terms of specifications and exact technical details can't be
considered a topnotch device. It features a camera, a display with 262,000 colors, a not so usual stainless steel metal
cover, and an extended battery life. What marks the difference from the rest is the interface, design, look, feel, and
exclusive sounds in Advanced Audio Coding quality.
Key Features
* Display: TFT, 256K colors
* Size: 208 x 208 pixels
* Scratch-resistant glass
* Ringtones: Polyphonic (64 channels), MP3, AAC
* Vibration Yes
* Card slot: No
- 64 MB internal memory
* Data GPRS Class 8 (4+1 slots), 32 - 40 kbps
* HSCSD Yes
* EDGE Class 8, 236.8 kbps
* Bluetooth Yes, v2.0
* USB Yes, Pop-Port
* Features Messaging SMS, EMS, MMS, EMail, Instant Messaging
* Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML
* Camera MP, 800x600 pixels, video
* - Java MIDP 2.0
- Durable stainless steel covers
- FM radio
- MP3/AAC player
- T9
- Built-in handsfree

Size:
* Weight: 138 g
* Dimensions: 107 x 45 x 17.5 mm
Network:
* Triband GSM 900/1800/1900
Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, New Zealand, and Australia
Sales Package Contents ,
* Nokia 8800 Sirocco Edition phone
* Nokia Battery BP-6X
* Nokia Compact Charger AC-3
* Nokia Desk Stand DT-16
* Nokia Carrying Pouch CP-104
* Suede cleaning cloth
* CD

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Features of iphones :
1) General network GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
2) Announced 2004, 3Q
3) Status available
4) Size: 98 x 53 x 13.9 mm, 65cc
5) Weight: 95 g
6) Display type TFT, 256K colors
7) Size: 176 x 220 pixels, 9 lines
Cool Second CSTN display (96 x 80 pixels), 4,096 colors
9) Anodized aluminum case
10) Downloadable logos
11) Ring tones type polyphonic (24 channels), MP3
12) Customization composer, download, order now
13) Vibration: yes
14) Memory phonebook 1,000 entries, photo call
15) Call records 10 dialed, 10 received, 10 missed calls
16) Card slot: no
17) 5.5MB internal memory
1Cool Data GPRS class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48Kbps
19) HSCSD: no
20) Edge: no
21) 3G: no
22) WLAN: no
23) Bluetooth: yes, V1.2
24) Infrared port: no
25) USB: yes, mini USB
26) Features messaging SMS, EMS, MMS, e-mail, instant messaging
27) Browser WAP 2.0/ xHTML
2Cool Games skipping stones, golf, billiards + downloadable
29) Colors silver, black (special edition)
30) Camera VGA, 640 x 480 pixels
31) Java MIDP 2.0
32) MPEG4 video
33) T9
34) PIM functions
35) Calculator
36) Currency converter
37) Built-in handsfree
3Cool Battery standard: Li-ion 680mAh (BA700)
39) Stand-by time: up to 280h
40) Talk time: up to 7h
41) Software CD, cardboard/plastic insert and original color box

In The Box:
iPhone
Stereo Headset
Dock
Dock Connector to USB Cable
USB Power Adapter
Documentation
Cleaning/Ploishing Cloth

-------------------------------------------------------------


waiting for your soon reply
tony

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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 20:31:32 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:


IS THIS REAL ONE?? MY BUSINESS PARTNER SEND ME THIS??? IS THIS A REAL GENUINE MODEL AND WHERE MANUFACTURED? I REALLY WANT TO BUY LARGE QTY. BUT I NEED ALL DETAILS AND GOOD PICTURE! PLEASE SIR THANK YOU!
'Don't be fooled by the 8800 Black model this is a real Sirocco Edition'


On 8/8/07, OPTIMUM SECURITY <[email protected]> wrote:
OK SIR I NEED YOU TO SEND ME COMPLETE PRODUCT DESCRIPTION AND MODEL NUMBERS!
I WANT PICTURE TOO PLEASE, I NEED TO GIVE MY CUSTOMERS THE MOST ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF PRODUCT. I WANT THEM TO BE 100% SATISFIED!
THANK YOU SIR
I WANT TO SELL IPHONE ALL MODELS!!!!
AND NOKIA


On 8/8/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected] > wrote:

hello sir
thank you for your inquiry.

we are pressional and golden supplier on alibaba.our glden membership is worth 30 thousand of USD$ in one year.you can look this link : http://shidaitrade.en.alibaba.com/ . so if you don't receive your goods ,you can report our company on alibaba.in that case it will cancelour company membership.

and tomorrow i will send our register number in business association to you.

OK, we accet your dropshiping your order to your customer due to considering of long-term business with you.so dropshiping price is $238/unit for 8800 Sirocco,pls let me know where is your customer.


this is our website: www.ainetrade.com .

ipone price is $268/unit

if you buy more than 10 units ,i can give you $218/unit.

waiting for your soon reply
tony

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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:01:16 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:


also how can i trust you? do you have refrences? how can i be sure if i send money i receive product?


please give me model number on applke i phones and price? and provide business refrences and business website. I do not want to be scam. Thank you


On 8/8/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:


hello
This is tony .

We are serious and professional supplier of various of phones.such as nokia N95,8800,8800 sirocco,vertu,N93,N93i,appleipones,ect.

product:8800 Sirocco

Payment: Western Union, MoneyGram, T/T,
Shipping: TNT,EMS,UPS.(4-7days,accept dropship)
min order: 2 pcs
guaranteed: 100% custom clearance
Price (price includ shipping cost to ): $238/unit

if you buy 40 pcs,the price is $168/unit

All the phones are original and brand new in sealed boxes , equiped with all accesories , unlocked and 1 year international warranty.

waiting for your soon reply

tony



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Repasted here from an accidentally started thread:

SECURITYOPTIMUM wrote:
On 8/10/07, putianzhaoyang <[email protected]> wrote:




how can you said we are scam ? .
we are pressional and golden supplier on alibaba.our glden membership is worth 30 thousand of USD$ in one year.you can look this link : http://shidaitrade.en.alibaba.com/ . so if you don't receive your goods ,you can report our company on alibaba.in that case it will cancelour company membership. got it ? if you don't believe ,you can ask the alibaba website about our company.

ok, i tell you this : Version: 5.01 build 200
s/n: V1Q7-SC97-NNNN-LX-0000-3BFF/A2BE


hope can do long-term business with you.

Regards

tony

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SECURITYOPTIMUM
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Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 9
Location: mass


PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

what u think ? this is defenite scam?
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Tsnerd
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You are correct in suspecting this. It is most certainly a scam and Alibaba has long been a favorite of scammers selling their fake wares.

We have an entire section on Phone Lads and their scams here:
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=45

And I would suggest reading up on the purpose of the forum here:
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72654

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