American Scammers?

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:05 am

What are your thoughts on American romance scammers? From what I understand, they are smarter and don't use scripts, so we could definitely get good pictures. Is it simply too hard to do?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:01 am

The trouble with American scammers is differentiating them from the usual pile of desperate and dateless Walter Mitty characters. I can spot vlads because of the rigid scripts they use. I can spot Africans because they're implausible and crap. How do you tell if an American is a scammer though? If they're good, you could chat to them for a couple of months and be none the wiser before they make their move for the cash.

Also most people posing as "Americans" on dating sites will frequently turn out to be from another country and using a fake pic when you start chatting to them. Some of the smarter African scammers have realized that posing as supermodel in Ghana is not a good backstory and pretend to be a girl-next-door type from New York; very badly, of course.

As for getting trophy pics, the main thing is to find a scammer who uses photos of themselves or someone close to them rather than just ones they've nicked off an internet site. That's not the practice of a smart scammer though; they'll do everything they can to cover their trail. The ones you can get trophies out of are generally just wannabes.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:07 pm

where did you find an american romance scammer?
like said above....you need to make sure where they really are!

I haven't seen many bonafide american romance scammers.

unlike mari el and west africa....prosecution is possibe!

fwiw....every time somebody new to the scammer world claims to have an 'american' romance scammer....(or french, british, aussie...etc) they usually don't know enough to understand where the scammer really is.

where is the money supposed to be sent to?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:32 pm

To me it sounds like a lot of work for little gain. These are isolated people who probably own their own computer and are hard to detect.

Take on a lad and waste his time on say ITV5, he is tied up and so is the computer so another lad can't scam.

If you are SURE you have one, then hell why not. In the meantime hook up with an Elena and start reding script!

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:47 pm

I always check the list of people identified by dotsilver.com as scammers on LoveCompass. Most of the scammers listed as living in America have the grammatical conventions of Nigerians or Russians, but every once in a while, I have gotten genuine American scammers (as shown by the email header). The baits don't last long, though, so I just went back to the Russians.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:52 pm

Lots of Russian scammers, and a few Africans, spoof their address by using a proxy in the states, so don't treat the IP address in the headers as conclusive proof. Similarly, a lot of US phone numbers are redirections to elsewhere. Even bank accounts and postal addresses can be ones of scam victims that are used for forwarding purposes.

Still, I'm sure there there are a few scammers who really are in the states. However, they're a much trickier proposition to identify and bait than their better known overseas counterparts.