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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

dgloryhole wrote:
if we really found out what happens after death


For the moment I'd be happy if we found a working spellchecker. I don't mind being eaten by worms later but having to guess my way through barely readable text before that annoys me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If there's life after death it's going to be a huge affirmation/surprise depending on your point of view. If there's only oblivion we're not going to be aware of it anyway. Win:Win really Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I did a search but nothing came up and as this does seem to be a skeptic thread.

In Australia tonight they are airing "The Great Global Warming Swindle"
I gather it was viewed in the UK before. How was it accepted.
The round table discussion is rather interesting.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Methinks you will find that better handled as a separate thread. Discussions go for multiple pages with references on sites that discuss it.

Me?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Right. Missed this.

dgloryhole wrote:
yes-we cant explain but someday we will know what happens after death-


Actually, in a way we do. A true lack of consciousness--being knocked out, a coma of any duration from any cause--gives you the answer.

People in that state--without cortical function secondary to drugs, trauma, Celine Dion--experience . . .

. . .


. . .


. . . nothing.

This is why those who recover from a coma--a true coma, not the "Hollywood" or "media coma"--do not recall the passage of time. Anyone who has suffered a loss of consciousness loses the time. This is why people always answer the question, "Did you lose consciousness?" with "No." When questioned, it becomes clear the person is missing detail:

"I remember driving my car . . . I remember being on the ground with people talking to me."

Death is merely a continuation of this state or as others have noted, exactly what you experiences all of those millions of years before you were born.

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if we really found out what happens after death this world and its inhabitants views would change beyond anything we could imagine


Not really. Humanity has absorbed far more interesting and frightening concepts than that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

harrya wrote:
"The Great Global Warming Swindle"

Yes, Doctor X is right - please start a separate thread if you want to discuss that. This thread is about bogus science, as opposed to disputed science.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What happens after my death will be the exact same thing as what happened before my birth, I don't expect anything else. So if you (whether you believe in an eternal soul or not doesn't make a difference) want to know what "after death" is like try to remember "before birth". Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Could not say that better myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If you zoom out a little from our concept of life, in a way, we are all immortal. Every atom in your body is as old as the universe.

Unless someone repeals the law of conservation of mass/matter, the stuff you are made of is eternal; you have always been, you will aways be.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There is actually something we can all do, and it is not after death, nor before birth. It's called living, and how you lead your life will affect your next. If there is a next. Some people claim to have a past life.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Fer-de-Lance wrote:
Some people claim to have a past life.


Some people swear there's bugs running over their skin even if noone else can see them. Usually we refer to these people as mentally ill instead of "invisible bugs will be proven in the future, we will develop means to see them", "suspend your judgement until the evidence is in" or "maybe just not everyone can feel the invisible bugs' energy".

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ reaper

When citing sources.....please cite them properly - - seeing as how we are discussing matters of the brain, it would be best to cite in APA 5th edition style....therefore your:

"The skeptics Dictionary"
Address: http://skepdic.com/dejavu.html
Accessed: 12, July, 2007
Author: Robert Todd Carroll

Would result in minus 3 points in a paper for my class. The proper way to cite that is:

Carroll, R. T. (2007). The skeptics dictionary. Retrieved on July 12, 2007, from http://skepdic.com/dejavu.html.


Please cite properly from now on, or it is still plagiarism in my classroom!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am so glad I never had you for a professor Eliza. English has always been my Achilles heel.

Back on topic though, there are no ghosts around, but it is funny to watch these "ghost hunters" scare themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Don wrote:
Some people swear there's bugs running over their skin even if noone else can see them. Usually we refer to these people as mentally ill instead of "invisible bugs will be proven in the future, we will develop means to see them", "suspend your judgement until the evidence is in" or "maybe just not everyone can feel the invisible bugs' energy".


I just asked and the bugs on my skin say you're wrong (Bugs on MC's skin, personal communication, July 12, 2007).

Insolent little twerps!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Eliza

Funny, in a discussion on comparative mythology on ANOTHER BOARD [Boo. Hiss.--Ed.] some became very upset that I cited references.

"Can't you think of things yourself!!!"

Sorry, but I did not invent Assyriology. . . .

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Reaper wrote:
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I get a lot of deja moo feelings at work. Same old bullsh*t....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Doctor X wrote:
... I did not invent Assyriology. ...


But I have a Master's degree in it. Really! Very Happy

My thesis was on the Sumerian Ninurta Hymn SLTNi 62.

Oh yes, their fortune telling was bullshit too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just got around to reading the rest of this (after reaper's post) and it is quite interesting.

Dr X - I LOVE your posts!!! I wish you could come over here and have coffee. We could have a great discussion. I'm right there with you.

I'm doing a research project right now on comparative psych. But it's not my major field of study.

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Get a room Rolling Eyes

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I think Dr X has been listening to a few too many of Amy's conversations and he loves that southern drawl of yours Eliza.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Laughing , @Eliza, yeah I think thats how I'm supposed to write it out according to my yearbook which has all the school polices on plagiarism, and all that other stuff.

Anyway back to paranormal things what about Medium, Alison Duboise (spl?)
Obviously the Tv show is BS, but what about the real Alison helping the police? Good guesswork or actual psychic abilities?

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So get this - - My friend went to do laundry today - and the psychic shows up at the place where she does laundry. She asked about ME! My friend said she didn't give her any information because she remembered what I said about the lady maybe listening us talk while we were sitting on the bench. Then she said this other woman came in and started talking to her and wanted to get to know her - then she saw the psychic come back in and start talking to the lady - and my friend said - Oh you know her? Is she your daughter? The psychic said "No" and the other woman said "yes"

So my friend says she had talked a bit with the daughter - not knowing she was the daughter of the psychic - so now she thinks her daughter will say some things she learned from talking to her - and then try to get her in for a reading. LOL

My friend said the psychic says she's a bit worried about me as she has a strong feeling I've been talking to people about what she said and that this is going to keep me from getting the help that I need to rid the negative energy. LOL I guess she IS psychic after all - she knows about you guys!!

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