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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

well i have had them both go thru the house and write down where spirit was then i went thru and noted where the emf showed something-both times our results matched-the daughter lives out of the house now but has an entity in her apt named emily-her daughter has a baby and emily has taken it upon herself to amuse the baby-the baby gurgles and laughs as emily entertains her-i am a skeptic and have been studying parapsychology for yrs but i have seen alot and know there is more to all this than what we would believe

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I think the electrical station around my house is haunted. The EMF meter is off the charts! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

dgloryhole wrote:
well i have had them both go thru the house and write down where spirit was then i went thru and noted where the emf showed something-both times our results matched


Of course it did.

This is why people do double-blind experiments.

As above, it is very natural to see patterns in things--particularly noise. Scientists have to run such controls in order to remove such intentional bias. Understand, this is not because you are "stupid" or "gullible"--it is what we all do.

You need to be able to define--as the article suggests--what specifically represents detecting a ghost. Give that parameter to someone else and let him determine this is "a ghost" on your readings. However, I would suggest you are looking at a lot of fluctuation and sort of thinking "this is" or "is not" and you reading is influenced by expectation.

Again, that is not because you are "stupid" or "gullible"--scientists fall for this all of the time. In the thread on perpetual motion in this section, I linkypoo'd to a book--Voodoo Science--that describes this phenomenon. Another one--a classic--is Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science by Martin Gardner. In that he describes how a physicist fooled himself--and the world--that objects gave off "N-waves." Scientists around the world were getting papers published on something that does not exist.

They did not. He failed to blind his experiments and do proper controls.

We are designed to find these patterns and meaning.

This has probably turned into a BIG tangent from Eliza's thread, so if someone wants to send this part into a separate thread, or if you wish to start a new thread on this subject, that may be more appropriate.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

yea jojo living under or around high tension wires will cook you-beware

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eliza_Doolittle wrote:
Do they exist? ...


Without having read every post in this thread in detail before posting (bad, I know!), I have to say, either you're joking or you should demand a total refund on your college tuition! Laughing

Come on! Psychics?

Let me go ask my personal astrologer. The stars will tell us. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You're sooo cynical KD. Of course they exist. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OK, the hair on the back of my neck is standing up.

I predicted KD's post!

or some version of it... maybe it's hindsight...

I'm psychic!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@lotta

I can't help it. It's the spirits in my attic. They say things to me.

What's worse is, I listen to them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I vote we get KD to come visit me. Get a few drinks in him and send him off to see the psychic.

I predict that he shouldn't come visit me, though - because I see that we'd go to a Yankee game - they'd beat the Red Sox - and he'd spiral into a depression.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, I have to say that, although being as cynical as they come....
my dog went missing one day (old, almost blind, virtually deaf etc) and he could have wandered off in any direction. But I called my mum (who's into all this BS) and she said he was near a certain canal bridge. I couldn't find him, but I called the dog pound who said they'd just sent someone out to pick up a dog fitting his description nearby. I went to the address they gave me and there he was...about 100 yards from the canal bridge. Spooky Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eliza_Doolittle wrote:
... Get a few drinks in him and send him off to see the psychic. ...


The poor woman. She'd end up sending a crybaby PM to Shiver about me. Laughing

Eliza_Doolittle wrote:
... we'd go to a Yankee game - they'd beat the Red Sox ...


Yeah, just like in the playoffs 2004. Cool

Do Yankees fans ask psychics "who's my daddy?" Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@KD

I never listen to the spirits who hang out in the attic. They're not very reliable. I only listen to the one down in the basement.

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^^^^^ I don't have a basement, but it's crowded in the attic. Laughing
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Bah, I never listen to spirits. Most were twits in life, what makes anyone think they have become all smart and all knowing because they are dead? Hell if they died of something stupid it proves they are just bigger morons dead than alive. Most just bitch about how they are dead and can't do anything, head for the light and leave me alone you bastards....

Uhm ok sorry about all that I need more alcohol.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

kleindoofy wrote:
Yeah, just like in the playoffs 2004. Cool


The Red Sox will hold onto those wins even if they never win another playoff race again. Oh well, I like the Phillies and they never win anything.

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yep, palmreading, mindreading, and all that show are of course real.... you bunch of non-believers : I read my horoscope every day, and every day it is bang on !
How can one not believe that the exact position of a planet or solar system hundreds of light years away doesn't determine a person's behaviour, character and disposistion ?
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You're born, you live, you die... That's it.

There is no god, no afterlife, no mysterious powers, no EPS, no telepathy; telekinesis, Bermuda Triangle, UFO's etc... If you believe that, you might as well believe Mr Mugu...

It's inherent to mankind to believe the unbelievable, to accept the un-understandable (we now laugh at our ancestors who worshiped the sun or the moon, or who believed he earth was flat). Our ignorance shouldn't be an excuse to accept the unlogical.

Do ants or elephants, or field mice predict the future, or is their character determined by a circumstantial positioning of celestial bodies light years away.? and if so .. do are they aware? and if not, what's the bloody point??

Anyway, my local psychic told me a was in for a cool experience, and considering Mars is appearing in Capricorn (or whatever), I'll go to the fridge and see if I can spot another Lager to dampen my scepticism..

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Bobo419 wrote:
... Sleep tight


Sleep is but an illusion. Laughing
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@kleindoofy : true, I once read a story where it was suggested that our dreams were reality, and our waking hours were what we were really dreaming... mind bogling when you are 16 years old, but quite comforting at my age... for it means I am spending about 7 hours a day in the company of Jenna Jameson Razz

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Why don't I know of any rich pychics? Is there some kind of sheild around the stockmarket that prevents them from tuning in?

Bah humbug and fooey!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

On a related note: Is the light in my fridge really out when I close the door?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

callum wrote:
Is there some kind of sheild around the stockmarket that prevents them from tuning in?


There must be. My huge investment in Steorn's Orbo perpetual motion machine tanked big time.

Serves me right for trying to use my gift for profit, instead of for helping others for um... well... profit, I guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think the eater is haunted. There is even a ghost that posts here occasionally (usually when hes drunk).

Anywho, I think this thread has gotten just a hair on the silly sidejust a hair mind you Laughing

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Yes there is, just look at my location. Its been there since June 26, 2004 Smile

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There certainly is an afterlife. I have dead folks visiting me all the time Very Happy

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Bobo419 wrote:
Do ants or elephants, or field mice predict the future

Yes, just like goldfish and horses can predict an earthquake, and TSnerd can predict the falling of underwear from the clothes line when it blows a gale. It's true! He told me once!

OOOOoooooo I get a feeling someone may tell us to limit PW'ing to the pure kak thread.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I predicted that one on page twoI guess Im not psychic. I am really a ghost in case youre wondering. Im going to pop by lottas and pay here a visit now.

Im going to put the toilet seat upwomen hate that for some reason.

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