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 Beware of "Elite Service" Ukraine !

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dojodate
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

""Elite Service" agency Ukraine are dating scammers"

Whenever you get in touch with a Russian young lady, or from Ukraine, please make sure that her letters are genuine and that she is not a mockup by an agency like "Elite Service".

Such agency do "translation services" and ask 1000 USD for getting letters translated between you and the young lady. You will receive lots of photos and letters, the most romantic and poetic ones. All nicely copy/pasted by students who want to make some extra money.

You will never meet that young lady for real. That lady will even never know about your existence. They are just models and nothing more than that. They have their own life and the photos are of years back.

Well, to make a very long story short: whenever you receive a message through a datingsite from an Ukrainian lady who wants you to email her through your regular email account, be warned.

Their address info:

in Ukraine +380 95 686 2384 from 9.00 till 16.00 of local time
Skype number 13158495771
Manager of "Elite Service"
Ludmila Scherbina
94000 Dovzhenko St.
112 Stahanov Ukraine
tel +380 5095 90611
[email protected]

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Of course you have just paused awhile before posting evidence to prove your claims.
We would have preferred you to have posted it along with the content of your first (and only) post.

We'll wait . . . . . . . . . . . but not for too long.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Evidence is here :

Quote:

Received: from xxl (kostik.real-users.lds.net.ua [193.192.37.8])
by relay.lds.net.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA6A47592
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:14:05 +0300
From: [email protected]
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) Personal
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: mail.ru
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: (me) <[email protected] (my email address) .nl>
Subject: from "ELITE SERVICE"
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]nd.nl>
References:
<[email protected]nd.nl>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new

Thursday, June 21, 2007.

qualitative translation of any difficulty

ELITE SERVICE


Dear Mr. (me),

We are sorry for disturbing you with such kind of question. We are
the translation bureau. Tatiana Yatsenco had used our paid services
of translators in order to write the letters to you in English and to
get the letters from you in Russian. Unfortunately, for this time it
is impossible for her to make the payment even for the next letter.
Tatiana has your last letter in translated variant but unfortunately
she hasn't any possibility to write the answer, - the account is
CLOSED. But the account for going on the communication CAN BE
REOPENED after making the payment and full filling it. If you are
interested in helping Tatiana with payment for our services, please,
make a request on this e-mail address and we will send you all the
information about our options and conditions, if you are not
interested, just notify us and we will delete the account.

Additional information you may get by the following telephones:
in Ukraine +380956862384 from 9.00 till 16.00 of local time
Skype number 13158495771

Cordially yours,
Manager of
"Elite Service"
Ludmila Scherbina


And here :

Quote:

Received: from xxl (kostik.real-users.lds.net.ua [193.192.37.8])
by relay.lds.net.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC96F47E36
for <(my email address)>; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:00:48 +0300 (EEST)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:00:16 +0300
From: [email protected]
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) Personal
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: mail.ru
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: (my email address)
Subject: from "ELITE SERVICE"
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]nd.nl>
References:
<[email protected]nd.nl>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new

Friday, June 22, 2007.

qualitative translation of any difficulty

ELITE SERVICE


Dear Mr. (my name here),

On behalf of your lady Tatyana we want to utter you the gratitude in
interest in our services, and provide you with the information of the
main work principles our firm and the options we are able to suggest
you.

First of all, we want to notify you that ELITE SERVICE company is
well known on the market of translation for almost 10 years since its
foundation. We provide our clients with different kinds of
translations, including technical, official, business papers and
political negotiations on different levels.

Taking into account the needs of our city, we have also started to
provide our clients with private translation, and baring in mind that
you display particular interest exactly in this kind of services.

* The letter that is considered standard in our firm contains up to
3000 CHARACTERS with spaces and we charge 5 USD for its translation.

* If the letter has more than this number of characters, our
customers add 1 USD for each thousand of characters which will follow
the appointed number.

* In case you evince interest in covering the expensing for longer
period we are able to suggest you following options:

UNLIMITED TRANSLATION (without photos):

2 weeks of unlimited translation 80 USD
1 month of unlimited translation 150 USD
2 months of unlimited translation 250 USD
6 months of unlimited translation 700 USD

We also want to introduce you special UNLIMITED option for private
CORRESPONDENCE which allows to send any number of photos along with
the letters:

2 weeks of unlimited correspondence 110 USD
1 month of unlimited correspondence 200 USD
2 months of unlimited correspondence 350 USD
6 months of unlimited correspondence 950 USD

* TRANSLATION of PHONE CONVERSATION 10 min - 10 USD

* We want to emphasize that we are not marriage agency, so we are not
involved in organizing meetings and providing the language studies.
However if you will need useful tips concerning the matter, we are
ready to manifest our assistance and provide you with the links where
you will be able to find the information, here is the address you can
contact the head of language school [email protected].

In case, you decided to help Tanya with payment for the translation
of your correspondence, you may do it the following way. You can make
transfer by Western Union or MoneyGram systems. Almost all of our
clients make the payments by these systems, so we consider them
reliable enough. Here is the full data for the receiver:

name of the receiver: Yatsenco Tatiana
address: 94000, Koroleva St. 22
city: Stahanov
country: Ukraine.

You can use also your credit card to send payment through the Western
Union service. You can do it on line on web site www.westernunion.com

Additional information you may get by the following telephones:
in Ukraine +380956862384 from 9.00 till 16.00 of local time
Skype number 13158495771
unfortunately, our site is under construction for now.

Cordially yours,
Manager of
"Elite Service"
Ludmila Scherbina
94000, Dovzhenko St. 112, Stahanov, Ukraine.
+380509590611
[email protected]


Both "Tatiana" and "Elite Services" have exactly the same email address.


Mod edit: Combined the posts. TS

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree that the two emails are a scam and getting you to 'pay' to reopen the account so that you can continue talking with the young lady is the hook, but if there is such a company as "Elite Services" they are probably innocent and are having their name used by the scammers, which happens often.

Is the address you posted in your first post the one for the company?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dojodate ,
Perhaps you should have explained here that you are the owner of several dating sites.
It would have also helped us to know that your initial query here was raised as a result of your falling hopelessly in love with this girl, 'Tatiana',

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I think that you know that you are the victim of a scam and also, on reflection, that you have been naive and should have been more aware of what was happening.
You were, however, too besotted with the new 'girlfriend' of yours.

I post this information with the interest of our members in mind. I don't want them to be spending time checking out your 'scam agency' when you already know that both it and your Tatiana are scammers.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dojodate,

I don't wish to be too hard on you.
I do have some sympathy for victims of scam (albeit not a lot)

I can fully understand why you became besotted with your Russian girlfriend and I fully understand why you, as the owner of several dating sites yourself, would never question why the pretty average Tatiana needed to use a dating site to find you.

She's not a bad looker though.

Image

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Dojo, might I suggest that you remove the Ukraine dating scam page from your website, where it says:

Quote:
DojoDate asks you to be aware of Ukraine dating scammers. Russian girls tend to ask your email address and before you realize it you will be paying lots of money for nothing in return.

"Elite Service" agency Ukraine is a major dating scammer"


As has been explained to you, the woman in the photos is not the person you thought you were writing to, nor is she from "Elite Service", it's simply a scammer saying they are from that dating agency, scammers often use the name of real websites in their scams, so, it is very unfair of you to be calling another dating site a major dating scammer, some people might think you are doing that because they are competition, and Elite Service might well want to seek legal guidance over you tarnishing their name and reputation, that's if Elite Service do actually exist and is not simply a name made up by the scammers, can you post the Elite Service website adress?

What would happen if a member came here and said dojodate.com is a major dating scammer, after receiving an email from a woman claiming to be from your site, and asking for fees, would you be happy with your name being tarnished when you have done nothing wrong?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Regardless of whether and how many datingsites I have, which has nothing to do with me as a person, the facts stand.

From the very beginning I received Tatiana's emails from exactly the same email address as "Elite Service", as became evident later on. I believe I had made that clear.

I agree, I should not publish bad things about "Elite Service", for now. I have deactivated that page from aforementioned webiste. Thank you for your advice. I have spent already enough time on this subject and I am tired.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Breddan Butter,

Your picture is in fact of porn star Jesse Jane. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you Mchuge,
My pictures were copied from dojodate's postings on other sites concerning the young lady he fell head-over-heels in love with.
I have no interest in the real identity of the person in the pictures, but I'm sure that your post will help dojodate become aware that his dearly beloved is not quite who she says she is. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No problem! Very Happy
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