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Poll :: What about the rose as decoration?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey, Cyric and myself have been working this lad and it seems he turned honest. I think this is a major archievement. Those who know me will recognise that I have been trying to do so for a long time.

Okay, I admit that Bele was not really the typical mugu. He was not cheating my fake lad and seemed to straigt (and dumb) for the business. But thanx to our efforts there will probably be one mugu less in the wolrd.

I think we should make up a new decoration to be used in the siggy line for this archievment, similar to the (which is another good way to have one mugu less in the world Wink ).

How about using the rose Pretty Rose for this Question

Anyone with at least a strong reason to believe a lad changed career (we will never be able to really prove it) would be granted to wear this decoration.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If it's for real, then it is a major achievement. However, unlike putting him behind bars, there's always a chance that he could lapse back into his old ways at any time.

Even if you've put him through months of mental torture and humiliation, he'll still see guys going past him in the street flaunting the proceeds of their ill-gotten gains, and will know deep down that scamming can work even if he's not very good at it right now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Don't think so. I've been baiting him and just yesterday he sent me bank account info. (Sent to Alan.)

I was telling him that as a businessman I don't throw my money around and his shipping fees were too high and we needed to use UPS. So he agreed. Then he provided the same name to send the money to. I was confused about how the same name could be at two different shipping companies. He explained it was at the bank. I asked then why aren't we doing a bank to bank transfer he sent me a bank account. I didn't ask him why we aren't using his bank.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A lad turning honest is virtually unheard of and even if they did momentarily, Hellbastard is right, it wouldn't last and looking at redshoes17's post it certainly wasn't a serious conversion. I thought the general consensus was that you can't change a lad to an honest way of life and never believe him when he says he's gone straight, cause he hasn't. The scamming lifestyle is too ingrained into them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am sure that there are occasionally a lad turned good, but not often. If indeed it did happen, then kudos to you! But given my coarse attitude towards them, I would file this under lad hugging. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@redshoes
Is this definitely Bele or could it be Fawaz who's taken over the Charles Soludo account referred to in the above thread?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@redshoes17

from which e-mail addy was it sent? I'd hate Bele if he made a fool of me and is still in the business Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Lad hugging bullshit! Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If I remember this has been reported once or twice, but the lad started to beg for the baiter to send some money, and / or the lad kept up the scamming with other characters used by either the same baiter or other baiters.

I feel that this one will turn out no different.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hm, I do not quite agree with the icon. See, a lad turning honest..... I am sure that stranger things have happened in the world. I do however doubt if baiting will be the reason this happened. I am talking about the rare phenomenon in general, not about this one particular lad.

See, when a baiters gets a mugu locked up, this is because the baiter used his skills (and yes, his luck) to make this happen.

If a lad decides to turn his back on scamming, the baiting done may have played a part in it, but I think it will have more to do with lads finding another (criminal) carreer that pays better, or a change in family situation, or simply being forced to quit the business because he became ill or otherwise incapacitated. Outside circumstances will have a greater impact on his decision to quit than being baited.

Then there is the issue of proof. To get a badge in your sig, you will need to fork over some proof that your lad was indeed arrested. As I understood badges are hand out to those baiters who were able to proof that they were able to get a lad locked up.

Turning a scammer into a law abiding citizen will be difficult to proof. Who can guarantee that his lad is no longer interested in some easy scam money? He may have opened a different email address from which he conducts his business, he may TELL you he turned his back to the scam world, but can you take his word for it?

E, congrats on getting this lad sorted out, if he indeed decided to choose a different carreer (and let's all hope it is one where he needs to pay taxes), I certainly hope you finally achieved your goal. I do not mean to rain on your parade, I simply wonder if you do not need to settle for 'I believe he stopped, and that will be good enough for me'.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

rumbero wrote:
If it is [email protected]@z He will never turn to the good side Laughing
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At least I fully agree with that. [email protected]@az is the cheat of cheats. He is cheating every man he is dealing with. I think he is even snakier than dumb, though that is hardly possible. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A lad and honesty don't go together. Never. It's kinda like burning water. You might see some oil burning on top, but the water itself will never burn.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's impossible to prove, but as the one who has known Bele probably for the longest time (it was my catcher where we found him in the first place), I would just like to say this: if I had to pick a mugu that I think could maybe do this unlikely conversion, it would be Bele.
Confirming what e6ffdyr0 said about him: he just wasn't your usual lad. He seemed to be somewhat desperate already when we started having fun with him.
I think what persephone said is probably true: the baiters didn't do it alone, we were only the last slap in his face that made him change his ways (assuming he really did: as has been said, it's difficult if not impossible to prove.)

We've seen lads "turning honest" before, but usually those confessions have been made to a fake victim, while this one was made to a fake guyman with whom Bele had good relations.
It's no proof, but while usually the script B to a fake victim goes: "ok, I've turned honest and regret all I've done, please please please send me money now", in this case I fail to see his motive. He just decided to cut his relations with apparently well doing office that had many jobs to come for him.
Since then I sent him email as a fake lad offering partnership in a job, but so far haven't received any reply. And I don't think I will.
Maybe he just got fed up with our office and decided to go somewhere else to scam. Or maybe he really turned honest. I don't know. But I wouldn't dismiss the idea just because it's rare or because we don't see that almost ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

mami wrote:
... but the water itself will never burn.


who knows, someday we will will burn the deuterium in our fusion reactors Wink

thanx 4 all the feedback, though.

I think that the above shows that

a) Turning Bele was (if it happened at all) merly a thing bound to happen anyway and no baiters archivement.

b) A lad turning his back to 419 scamming may as well have done so in favour for a more prosperous criminal career like armed robbery.

c) A majority here feels that the Pretty Rose in the siggy line is lad hugging bullshit.

Allthough the poll may still go on, I think we have a clear result here Cool

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