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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Howdy!

I recently posted my first pic from a lad (http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112851) and when I shared the news with a friend, as well as the idea of publishing it on my personal blog, he raised an interesting question: can the lad sue me for publishing her picture without her consent?

I figure that the possibility of Mar1a M0gu engaging me on a lawsuit is remote, but nevertheless I think my friends question is valid.

Opinions?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Who will she sue, your baiting character? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They can't sue you for putting pics online that they sent you. Once it's sent to you (esp. via internet), they can't claim privacy rights. At any rate, unless it's a real trophy, the pic they sent you is probably not them anyway, even more reason they can't sue you.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No, a court order would certainly take care of that.

I mean, it would be kind of twisted if somehow lads were able to get anything out of baiters in a legal fight. Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

She'll probably demand that you pay for her barrister for the case. By Western Union, of course.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Laughing

I could deal with the good old WU....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You don't actually own the copyright to your own image.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sure, like most around, but I was thinking more of a bunch of pissed-off lads getting together and Idea kinda thing.

The Mugu class-action suit
Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hell, perhaps I should delete this topic, dont wanna give them any ideas....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Try suing one of them and see how far you get.

My guess is they wouldn't do any better.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That must be why we only see Shiver now and again - dealing with all those sharp Armani suited New York lawyers the Lads hire.

Correction - I mean barristers, of course, in funny wigs. It's more likely you'll get killed by the world's first Intercontinental Ballistic Banana.

Actually that gives me an idea for a baiting scenario - pretending to be an ambulance chasing firm of lawyers asking Lads to sign up if their feeling have ever been hurt by a baiter. Laughing

I'll give that further thought.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mugu walks into police station to file report.

Mugu: I want to report somebody putting my picture on the internet.
police officer: what happened?
Mugu: I was trying to scam..... erm.... well, uh...... conduct business over the internet, but this guy asked me to send him a picture.
Police: alright. What kind of picture?
Mugu: well, I had to have a sign saying 'I am the mugu, you are the master'.
Police officer laughing
Mugu: and he put this on the internet on an anti scam website.
Police officer: anti - scam? Anything we need to talk about?

Mugu decides to walk out of police station.

Hm...... changes of your mugu successfully suing your baiter character (false name, false address, fake everything) will be very, very, very slim. Just as good as my chances of finally getting that lottery money Laughing I would not loose any sleep over it Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Even if the mugu gets past the police, and levels a charge of copyright and/or personal privacy abuse, you can still counter sue for fraudulent business claims. Laughing The legal world has some nice vicious circles that I think the lads would stay out of as they're a little on the shady side to begin with.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, I'm not worried at all about a Mugu vs. Baiter claim, but, nowadays you see the most ridiculous suits filling courtrooms, so I figured my friend's comment was not such a long shot.

I agree with you all.

However, if Mar1a ever sues me, I'll probably throw a pedicure as my settlement offer Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You clearly have little understanding of the Nigerian legal system

Mugu : I would like to report my image being used on the internet
Police man : My brother in law is the local mayor. How much $$ will
you give me to avoid a nasty road accident in the next few days?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jackndebocks wrote:
.....can the lad sue me for publishing her picture without her consent?


Who are you? Laughing

Her? Her?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If the lad does threaten to sue you, pretend to be afraid, draw him into your trap, and then crush him like the cockroach he is. The first thought that comes to my mind is to send him on safari. Something like this:

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I really do not want to ruin my reputation via the legal system. My younger sister, Traci Lords, is working as a volunteer in Benin. If we can come to a mutual settlement, I will send the money and release documents to her. Once you sign the documents in her presence, she will give you the $52,000 dollars to settle this matter


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, it's too bad he didn't really threaten to sue you. That would be loads of fun.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

In regards to your original question about the legality of it:

As was mentioned previously, they cannot claim damages as a result of breach of privacy because their picture was displayed.

If they gave you the picture then the picture becomes yours to do with as you wish.

There's really only two possibilities for them to have a recourse in law:

1. You posed as a solicitor or doctor and thus owe them a fiduciary duty not to breach confidence.

2. You defamed them in some way, i.e. you wrote on the picture "this person drinks the blood of children".

Otherwise, no, they can't do anything even if they wanted to.

But realistically... theses guys want as little to do with the authorities as possible.

It is more than likely your lad has much court room experience.

Problem for him is that he was wearing cuffs at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

fsnuffer wrote:
Any threat a lad throws at you is an opportunity. Let him think the threat has worked, pretend to cower, then when he is vulnerable - strike mercilessly. I would like to think this is covered by Sun Tzu but it is not


Sounds more like Aikido to me. Wait for an attack, then use your opponent's energies to your advantage. At least, this is in line with the baiter proverb, "don't spend more time on this than he does."

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I would love to see a lawsuit of this type! Just picture it... a stack of international arrest warrants issued to baiter characters.

The NBI (Nigerian Bureau of Investigation) top ten most wanted: Duane Pipe, Al Turego, John Q. Public, Heywood Jablomi, et al. All are wanted for internet imaginary copyright infringement. Suspects are considered unarmed and very dangerous. Contact Professor Soludo or Maryam Abacha's barrister in strict confidence if you have any information...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Dear Barrister,
I really do not want to ruin my reputation via the legal system. My younger sister, Traci Lords, is working as a volunteer in Benin. If we can come to a mutual settlement, I will send the money and release documents to her. Once you sign the documents in her presence, she will give you the $52,000 dollars to settle this matter


If the lad actually goes to Benin and you then fail to provide the $52,000, then he can sue you for breach of contract--you promised, he kept his end of the bargain, but then you didn't deliver. Same for any safari, actually. But don't lose any sleep over this possibility either. Image

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ Only problem is that the lad never intended to provide consideration for the contract and thus the contract is not binding.

The lad would be better off suing for psychological damages (or "nervous shock" as English law describes it)... considering the antics I've seen baiters put their prey through on here he might have a chance!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Could make for some interesting cross examination:

For the court, Mr./Mrs. Baiter, could you explain "dollar chopping"?

Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Its a good thing they have plenty of Barristers at their disposal...

Or is that barista....?

Next time I get an email from my resident Barrister Go0dluck I'm going to ask for a skinny macchiato with one sugar. Smile
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