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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BUBBA wrote:
I am glad that this site does not allow racist posts, even if calling a person "lad" is pretty much the same as "boy" which is not a cool thing to call a black person


Rubbish, I call my son, LAD, we call them lads as in lads from Lagos, and as for your connotation that lad is the same as calling them boys, which you say is not cool to call an African, the lads from Lagos call themselves the Yahoo Yahoo boys.

As for you comment above, in answer to the statement of We'd like to give bubba the opportunity to post the evidence he has, you replied:

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I could do that, but I don't feel inclined to do so. Maybe I'll take up badgering full time.


That just about sums your trolling ass up!

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They're asking for the headers from the email, Bubba, not the guestbook entry.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Holy crap, my request for headers seems like a request for a liver donation. I simply want to see the headers. Is it that difficult? I cannot possibly see why you would not want to post the headers. What problem would that be? You come asking information about the email, we try to provide and you are being rather pesky about it. Question

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller wrote:

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I could do that, but I don't feel inclined to do so. Maybe I'll take up badgering full time.


That just about sums your trolling ass up!


Yah. Don't feed the troll.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BUBBA wrote:

Originators IP is listed in the guest book.



No it's not.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jojobean wrote:
I cannot possibly see why you would not want to post the headers. What problem would that be?


Identical IP's? Wink

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If the person is a member of the site then they will be banned. end of story, post the IP address and someone here will sort it out.
On the other hand, Bubba, idiots like you are not welcome here.

The email address seems to be attached to an IP in the north of England, around Manchester and who is an NTL customer.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

All the guestbook says is:

Quote:
25.04.2007 - 12:47
Address: cpc1-oldh5-0-0-cust1016.manc.cable.ntl.com
From: Edward
[email protected]

Brill site!!


No IP address present.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jose_cuervo wrote:

Identical IP's? Wink


Have you been reading my diary?

Just post the headers.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From way back at the original post:

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Yes, we are dealing with bad people. And sure, I was probably out of line to bait a baiter... but his response is way way out of line. I just hope that this is isolated, and the rest of the baiters here are not using this site to justify their racist feelings.


I'd agree completely with this quote. I mean, there are three basic statements here:

1) Scammers are bad people.
2) So are racists.
3) So are BADgers (at least in our world!).

BUBBA - even in the time I've been here people have been banned for racism. If the person you were communicating with is a member on this site, the moderators will want to be able to track him/her down. I expect that JoJoBean was thinking along those lines asking for headers.

I'm sure you can understand why we don't appreciate BADgers. Most of us do feel like we're doing a service. Probably not along the lines of curing cancer, but I can guarantee that this site (and probably the other baiting sites as well, but I don't spend time there so can't address them) do in fact help reduce the number of victims of 419 scams.

It's been an interesting discussion!

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From Edward Rekshon Thu May 17 18:46:34 2007
X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 206.190.36.196; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:49:51 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [65.54.246.103]
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you sir. Now a mod will be able to find out whether or not that is someone who participates at this site. You may want to remove your email address though- in case someone chooses to be a badger as well.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No more feeding the Badger! It only makes it stronger....

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

P country: United Kingdom
IP Address state: Tameside
IP Address city: Failsworth
IP latitude: 53.516701
IP longitude: -2.133300

Near Liverpool, between Oldham and Manchester.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I'm sure you can understand why we don't appreciate BADgers. Most of us do feel like we're doing a service. Probably not along the lines of curing cancer, but I can guarantee that this site (and probably the other baiting sites as well, but I don't spend time there so can't address them) do in fact help reduce the number of victims of 419 scams.


Well the badgering was a spur of the moment experiment, mostly in reaction to the silly email address. And I was obviously kidding when I said I was going to take it up full time. It wasn't really that rewarding. (though some of the full thread is pretty funny) But you do take yourself a bit too seriously. Where do you think the the scammers get the money to pay for all of the phone calls, postage, internet usage, etc? They use stolen credit cards. Nigeria is the credit card fraud capitol of the world. So you may be preventing crime, but you are also adding to it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This thread grew faster than the oral sex thread from last week!

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you for posting the header Bubba Very Happy

There is no user on this site using that ip. Some in that range but not that one.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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So you may be preventing crime, but you are also adding to it.


And your answer is...?

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BUBBA wrote:
So you may be preventing crime, but you are also adding to it.


Oh? Would you rather them spend their stolen credit card money on things like phone calls to baiters, stupid pieces of art, tattoos, etc. or on actual items for themselves? I would rather have them throw good money after bad. I sincerely doubt that our existence is adding to any crime. I would rather him blow money on me than spend it on himself, or another potential REAL victim.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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So you may be preventing crime, but you are also adding to it.

I'm sorry but that has got to be the dumbest quote i have ever seen in this forum Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Remove police and there will be less crime because no one will be recording it.

Individuals aren't usually the victim in credit card crime.

I think I've been here before. I know why I'm here, do you know why you are BB ?

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BUBBA wrote:
Where do you think the the scammers get the money to pay for all of the phone calls, postage, internet usage, etc? They use stolen credit cards. Nigeria is the credit card fraud capitol of the world. So you may be preventing crime, but you are also adding to it.


That's an ignorant statement Bubba. Do you honestly believe that if we stopped baiting them, credit card fraud would go down?

It's not just about the money spent. Keeping these scammers occupied, believing they are corresponding with a "maga", keeps them away from a real victim.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@GP - I hope that BB wasn't referring to me Wink

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't know what you were hoping to achieve Bubba, but I doubt it was the (deserved) reaction you got.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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That's an ignorant statement Bubba. Do you honestly believe that if we stopped baiting them, credit card fraud would go down?


No. The point is that you are not quite the altruistic crusaders you think you are. You bait scammers because its funny. For the most part, that is the only reason you do it.
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