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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A scammer calling himself John Calvin just tried to scam me (incidentally, who baited him as John Calvin? That was an interesting choice of character)

Have you heard of scammers taking scambaiter names? Post some classic ones here, if you know any.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I was about to suggest that it's a coincidence, but I have gotten emails from scammers using the names Wesley Clark and John Kerry.

No, they weren't pretending to be the real people with those names, instead they were barristers trying to help me get some funds left behind by some long-lost relatives that I didn't know that I had.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scammers often take on baiters' names and identities. This is one reason we now discourage sending any type of ID that can be reused on real victims. How many folks here have gotten a scam mail from Wan Quin with matching passport?

[Edit]- Need to type faster, BA Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

FOC,

Thats not uncommon at all. They use names that they think we will relate to and that includes some that we have "given" them.

I have seen several names that I'm sure they got from baiters. Very Happy

I love it.

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EDIT: SF beat me to it.
EDIT: Sorry about the typo FOC, I corrected it. Embarassed


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ B. A. Ware:

"OFC?" Razz

But anyway, I think it's great that they're using these names. I don't think quite as many people will fall for a scam e-mail sent by a "Dr. Hugh G. Rection."

Hmm, perhaps we should get into the practice of not telling the lads what the names mean when we burn them, to increase the chances of their adopting them?

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Fat Old Catt wrote:
perhaps we should get into the practice of not telling the lads what the names mean when we burn them

Better yet, don't burn them.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hmm, does burn mean what I think it does? Confused

We really need to include that one in the "Definitions" thread, because I might be a little confused as to the term's meaning.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

"Burning" a lad means letting him know that he's been baited. Whilst there are 2 schools of thought on the issue, many of us don't ever do this (except in extreme circumstances). Letting a lad know that he's been baited, esp if you have used some of the fun shipping, testing, or verification modalities commonly seen here, can educate your lad about baiter techniques and help him learn to avoid baiters in the future.

Many of us prefer to have our characters twig thanks to a helpful WU or MG agent-friend-family member, or just fade away and leave him wondering what he did wrong.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ah, so it DOES mean what I thought it meant. Cool I have at least that to my credit.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@SlayerFaith,

I always thought it meant the same as slapping.

Oh well, you learn something new every day.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I got a barrister going by the name of Dan Zing.. maybe it's a baiter's name?

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am aware that there are two schools of thought in this area, but I am a firm believer that it is way more fun and damage to never let on you are a baiter.

Currently I have been exposed as a liar by my Mr Tutut| (see sig line) but I won't accept it, and am just filling his head with paranoia and confusion. Heck - as he called the female personna I was using 'wife', I have even told him he won't get any sex Laughing

I can even use the fact that he knows that I am a cheat and liar to my advantage to make him bite other bait I offer him, because he believes who I am still, and doesn't know I am both the male and female characters baiting him. If he knows I am a baiter, I lose that opportunity.

I am also going to come at him from several more directions, and if he is told clearly I am a baiter he will be much more suspicious, not that he is the brightest star in the firmament.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think you've got to weigh up the pros and cons. Most lads seem to be dimly aware that there are baiters out there and, far from burning them, you're probably just confirming their worst suspicions about you anyway.

However, if you've extracted a really great trophy out of a lad then burning him could let you really put the boot in and show him he's been utterly humiliated. To a naive wannabe lad who knows no better, a bait is just a failed scam. By spelling out to him that it's not going to be easy money, you might just persuade him that a more legitimate career is a better bet.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Going back to the OPs question, Im currently baiting a scammer who calls himself Benjamin Dover. Also, I recently baited Derek Trotter.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If you can get them using a stupid baiter name, that will be a better chance of a would be victim laughing instead of replying.

I have had a barrister called Cliff Hanger, obviously lifted from a baiter.

Never correct them, or let them know their name means something that they don't know about.

It works both ways, sometimes the lads are laughing at you with the names they use. I Googled a Barrister's name to find out he was the Nigerian entry on 'American Idol'. Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@tigbitties^-Please let me know how that Derek Trotter bait works out. And the one with Mr Dover too. I await your reply.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am on the side that NEVER lets the lad know he has been baited.

I have had a lad re-use my Kerk Pyrru5 baiter name, and unfortunately the passport I sent him as well. I discovered this because another baiter (who knew that I used that name) got a format from him using my name and pee and advised me.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have recently had the pleasure of receiving an email from a bona fide barrister named A.R.M Pitt

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

*ears perk up* a bag of mice? Twisted Evil

Oh, you were making an analogy. Confused

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I got a "Claim the money" from James Mama, so I asked if he knew Joe.

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No, But My father's name is Joseph Mama

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I can honestly say that I wrote to a guy that Knows Joe Mama.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've noticed lads using a bunch of first names. . .
as first and last names. Steven Dave, Peter Walter. I'm assuming those are their attempts to "blend in".

I also recently got an email from Johnson Manful, and one from Muhammed Ali. Those have got to be baiter names.

I agree that if lads pick up and use silly baiter names, the general population is more likely to discount their emails.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ I got one from Mohammed Ali too, just 2 days ago.

Small world....

Either that or I've signed the same guestbook as you. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My old baiting names of "Roger Slicker" (R. Slicker) is now being used by a lad.

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