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 Chaos Computer Club (Germany) strikes back - APRIL FOOLS!

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mathias
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tomorrow I will take part at a big demonstration in Frankfurt (15 o clock/ Hauptbahnhof) which is organized mainly by "Chaos Computer Club" (well recocgnized white hat hackers from Germany).

The demonstration is mainly against the new German laws which are giving the German Government total control over computers and its users

http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/demo-ueberwachung (also readable in English language)

http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/bundestrojaner-elster?language=en

If some other German baiters might also take part please contact me so we could possibly meet Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Bl**dy He*l.
I bet the criminals are over the moon and already getting their own hacking software written, all these computers with the same software on them.
1 usable hack and they can clean up.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

mathias wrote:
giving the German Government total control over computers and its users by installing Governmental approved Keyloggers on millions of computers in Germany with tax software (Elster Formular) etc....:

http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/demo-ueberwachung (also readable in English language)

If some other German baiters might also take part please contact me so we could possibly meet Twisted Evil


Well, I know about this discussion, of course. My problem: If german administratin will really try to keylog private machines: How will they do it? Those criminals will certainly use simple methods of avoiding being keylogged by not opening any attachments or by using sec progs. I'm not enough savvy to talk about Elster an so on, but I'm scared about keylogs being installed by any administration. How does Schäuble want to install this shit on my machine? I'm really scared about this. Maybe a thread should be opened for this topic, and this would be better than any PWT. Of course I know it's a political theme and so we should move this to another site. But where?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^I don´t want to open any political discussion.

I just want to point on the demonstration tomorrow and keep people informed.

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now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Being a business owner in Germany, I'm required by law to use Elster, and have been for three years.

Although I don't have anything to hide, it's still a bitch. Evil or Very Mad
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^^
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Smily Cancer wrote:
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Ok, but I still wouldn't put it past them.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Anyone got this in English? The English version link Mathias posted is also in German.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Didn't the NSA in the States drop their magic lantern program because hackers, hacked their back door hack in about three minutes?

This will just come back and kick the authorities in the backside too. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@TSM : LEIDER kein Aprilscherz! Evil or Very Mad The news are out everywhere on the media.

@ SP I am sorry that the English version does not work. You might try to get on their startpage and read it from there - the site is the official site from "Chaos Computer Club"

anybody from German plans to take part in the demonstration tomorrow?

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BASTARD !!! U JUST DEY MAKE ME SPEND MONEY SEND CHECKS TO NON EXISTING PLACES OL BOY NO TRY ME AGAIN OH ABEG JUST FUCK OFF MAKE I WORK COLLECT MONEY..

go screw your mother fucking uncircumcised rotten dick on your bedroom wall and die slow *DELETED* because you don't even worth a second out of my time

now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

mathias wrote:
anybody from German plans to take part in the demonstration tomorrow?


Well... I would, if I'd have just read this post earlier. Actually, the demo started just 14 minutes ago... Damn.

Tell us how it's been, will ya?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

coke1984 wrote:


Tell us how it's been, will ya?


Sure mate: nice demo, about 2000 nice people and good response in the media

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BASTARD !!! U JUST DEY MAKE ME SPEND MONEY SEND CHECKS TO NON EXISTING PLACES OL BOY NO TRY ME AGAIN OH ABEG JUST FUCK OFF MAKE I WORK COLLECT MONEY..

go screw your mother fucking uncircumcised rotten dick on your bedroom wall and die slow *DELETED* because you don't even worth a second out of my time

now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

Vcamera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8o0i40NbPA

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What would happen if you deleted it from your PC/refused to use it?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hekate wrote:
What would happen if you deleted it from your PC/refused to use it?


the police in Germanywants to get back the right to do a "electronic house-search" by using a "government trojan" which gives them total control over every private computer concerned and lets the machine do whatever the cops want (they did it secretely until a court stopped them last week)

In return the Government has raised the penalty for hacking up to a 3 years jail term

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BASTARD !!! U JUST DEY MAKE ME SPEND MONEY SEND CHECKS TO NON EXISTING PLACES OL BOY NO TRY ME AGAIN OH ABEG JUST FUCK OFF MAKE I WORK COLLECT MONEY..

go screw your mother fucking uncircumcised rotten dick on your bedroom wall and die slow *DELETED* because you don't even worth a second out of my time

now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

Vcamera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8o0i40NbPA

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You aren't able to do paper returns? That's a pity.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hekate wrote:
You aren't able to do paper returns? That's a pity.

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BASTARD !!! U JUST DEY MAKE ME SPEND MONEY SEND CHECKS TO NON EXISTING PLACES OL BOY NO TRY ME AGAIN OH ABEG JUST FUCK OFF MAKE I WORK COLLECT MONEY..

go screw your mother fucking uncircumcised rotten dick on your bedroom wall and die slow *DELETED* because you don't even worth a second out of my time

now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

Vcamera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8o0i40NbPA

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, the "government trojan" in the ELSTER-Software was (thank god) an April's fool by the CCC, see http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/bundestrojaner-elster at the bottom of the page.

But the "government trojan" itself is in fact currently in development (or already finished, the media is not conclusive here) and shall be used to search through the computers of any suspects online.

Using this method, even encrypted drives with tools like http://www.truecrypt.org/ can be accessed, once the user unlocks them.

Another reason to run governmental software on a seperate computer or at least in a sandbox.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

coke1984 wrote:
Well, the "government trojan" in the ELSTER-Software was (thank god) an April's fool by the CCC, see http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/bundestrojaner-elster at the bottom of the page.



you are right Embarassed

the ccc fooled me too
Very Happy

I have just discovered the update

anyway the demo was not only against the Elster-form and the Government-trojan which was actually used until last week when it was stopped by a court-rule

The Government actually introduces new laws ruling internet, phones and a so-called "Vorratsdatenspeicherung" where every internet provider for Phone, email-services etc. has to store all relevant data for 6 months

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BASTARD !!! U JUST DEY MAKE ME SPEND MONEY SEND CHECKS TO NON EXISTING PLACES OL BOY NO TRY ME AGAIN OH ABEG JUST FUCK OFF MAKE I WORK COLLECT MONEY..

go screw your mother fucking uncircumcised rotten dick on your bedroom wall and die slow *DELETED* because you don't even worth a second out of my time

now you have taken me to a far area from my place ... I have to sleep under the bridge today ...

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