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Sixx
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

they finally took the bait and emailed me back
the ip addys are from china
I got these two in the full headers.
203.209.230.31
61.141.148.189

and they want product =)

Quote:
Dear Sir or Mandam,

Thanks for your reply.

Now I would like to inform you our requirements.

According to the Market research , the needs on face care products is very large, but there are more much technical problems, we have no good kinds of goods. If you could offer us, it will be a good chance for your products to enter into our market.

The main face care products we need are as follow :

Name Quantity Price range Vol. Note
Eye Bebefit Cream 100 Bots. 10 每 25 euros 30g/ bot. Anticrease;
No chemical
White Fading out Essence 100 Bots. 30 每 65 euros 30g/ bot. Anti-infest;
No chemical
Red wine Moisture Mask 100 bags 15 每 30 euros 5 pcs/ bag No chemical
Milk Moisturizing & Smoothing
Face Mask 100 bags 30 每 75 euros 120g/ bot. No chemical
Natural Hydrating Freshener 100 bags 25 每 50 euros 120ml/ bot. Pure fruit;
No chemical
Breast care Cream 50 Bots. 50 每 100 euros 120/ bot. No chemical


If you could offer lipsticks to us, it is appreciated. But we need samples to cehck whether it is suitable for our customers.


If you have any information,please ask us.



Best regards,

Mr.He Wen Qiang

GUANGDONG GANGTAIYUAN GROUP CO.,LTD
7/F,JINGFENG BUILDING, SOUTH SHANGBU ROAD, LUOHU ZONE,
SHENZHEN,CHINA.
TEL:0086-755-8207-8510
FAX:0086-755-8207-8464
EMAIL: [email protected]


"Breast Care Cream" ??? Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

To further convince her, you might mention the following:

In the United States, electronic crimes (of which this is), actually fall under the jurisdiction of the Secret Service. You can see this website for details:

http://www.secretservice.gov/

If she is hell bent on going forward with this, she should realize that when it goes bad (and it will go bad) she runs a good chance of being contacted by the United States Secret Service. Also, seeing as how you are not willing to lie for her, there's a chance that when the Secret Service contacts her you will have not choice but to tell them that YOU had informed the gal that it was a scam, and YOU had told her what the consequences would be, and SHE elected to ignore you and continue on. That's not going to help her case any.

Yeah, I've gone overboard in my description, but what I described above is a possibility, and the Secret Service does have jurisdiction over these types of crime. Not too may people know this, as they like to keep it a secret (ba-dum-bud... tip your waitress).

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Sixx
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

she has since been convinced =)
and has decided not to attempt any business with these ppl
she said that another flag that made her wary was the fact that one of the men she spoke to, told her not to deal with the first guy that contacted her Laughing
guess there's some dissention in the ranks!

I still want to offer them some pancake griddle samples and perhaps some bat guano breast cream.
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Sixx
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ok, so I didnt offer the pancake griddles

my reply:
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Good day Sirs,

We have the following products, please review them and let us know if you have need to purchase them for your company:

BatPoot Breast Cream - made with all natural ingredients including fresh guano (very moisturizing....at least thats what the bats tell me.)
150g. per jar

Milk Face Cream - made with goat's milk, olive essence and balsamic vinegar (its a virtual salad for your face!)
200g. per jar

ToadSpit Eye Freshening Cream - produced with all natural amphibian saliva (uh...heh...)
75g. per jar

MSG-free Lipsticks (in 4 colors) red, purple, mocha, black
12g. each (thanks for the idea Jervis)

Please let us know if you require some samples of these products we carry.
The only thing we would require is the shipping costs of the product...the creams would be free to you.

thank you!
Angela Warhol
TunaMish Cosmetics
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi again Sixx, [Sir or 'Mandam'],

Glad to see that you turned the bait around on the cosmetics as I suggested. Now we find out that every item they have for sale is "no chemical", even the eye 'bebefit' cream. [In or on the eye??? they didn't explain---ewww either way].

Your idiot lad says to you "we have no good kinds of goods." What the hell is THAT supposed to mean from a company ostensibly doing million$ in biz? Sounds like an admission of total crap!

Add on some Zsa Zsa Gabor Never-Get-Older anti-wrinkle cream too. Made from pure jackalope extract, no chemicals. [google 'jackalope']

I can only laugh in amusement at the list of available cosmetics your mugu sent you and the ones you sent back to him. But I think my point was clear and thanx for playing up on it--always insist on 'put-up-or-shut-up' with The lads when they give you the chance.

Be sure to ask more about the specific uses and usage of the 'breast care cream' and 'white fading out essence' aforementioned by your lad. I'm curious myself. Remember, since it all has 'no chemical' you can ask just what it all does have, and cures. As thousands of your clients have allergies it could be life-threatening. You need to know, as one man of biz to another [to him].

cheerz, jervis tetch---mad hatter
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Sixx, there is a product you didn't ask them for, it's called cumonme face cream Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Try this for a laugh... Use babelfish to translate the site... you will see how those manuals for cheap chinese electonica come into being.... Smile Very Happy Cool
Quote:
www.gangtaiyuan.com

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller wrote:
@ Sixx, there is a product you didn't ask them for, it's called cumonme face cream Laughing



Steady on there SP...we haven't reached the 9:00 watershed yet... Wink
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Sixx
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You guys rawk Very Happy cumoneme Laughing

got another email this morning...these guys sure want to complicate things with needing samples....they need a slap, but they havent actually asked for money yet...only samples.

Quote:
Dear Angela Warhol

Thanks for your message.

We need you send samples to us for checking, as both of us don't knwo whether your productions are suitable for our skin.

Thanks for giving us free samples, and the shipping costs will be added into our order.

Please don't forget to give us a dicount, since the potential quantity we need is very large.

Please send one jar of each kind .

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

Mr.He Wen Qiang
GUANGDONG GANGTAIYUAN GROUP CO.,LTD
7/F,JINGFENG BUILDING, SOUTH SHANGBU ROAD, LUOHU ZONE,
SHENZHEN,CHINA.
TEL:0086-755-8207-8510
FAX:0086-755-8207-8464
EMAIL: [email protected]


I need to throw a monkey wrench in the works...gotta think how to screw with them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^

re 'He Wen Qiang'---he wanking?
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insertanally
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Looks Like It Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey all,

I found you guys when I was googling on GANGTAIYUAN.

We, a wholesaler in the Netherlands in security products, have received an enquiry from this ''company''. Quite a big enquiry, at least 150,000 euro / dollar.

We are very suspicious about this enquiry and the company and now even more..since we found out the information in this post. The enquiry we got is from the exact same company ,same address, but just a different person.

They call us almost everyday and they want to make a sales contract etc. etc.

Is it really a scam?
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insertanally
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It would help if you gave us the e-mail address.
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105535&highlight=gangtaiyuan

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller wrote:
@ Sixx, there is a product you didn't ask them for, it's called cumonme face cream Laughing


Or la cr鋗e de visage de bukkake Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The e-mail address is [email protected]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

hello,

they want product (coffee) from us too..
Before they place the - rather big order - they want the samples free (and we can do that i.e. 2-3 kg), but they she is not able pay the 50 Euro of the delivery costs to China.

And all data are the same like above , only email is different:

GUANGDONG GANGTAIYUAN GROUP CO.,LTD

Address:7/F, Jingfeng Building, South Shangbu Road, Futian Dist, Shenzhen

Tel: +86-755-82078491 Fax:+86-755-82078485

E-mail:[email protected] PC:518030

Also, they sent , via fax, CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL FOR ENTERPRISES WITH FOREIGN TRADE RIGHTS IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ,AND CERTIFICATE OF BUSINESS .
All in chinese language. ( i did not have the time to ask any chinese interpreter)

oh here's their website (googl):
http://www.gangtaiyuan.com/en/index.asp

Any farther suggestion about?

Thank you in advance
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You can always send them empty boxes with the covering note saying "You get what you pay for" ... Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Not very clever move. Are you going to pay the delivery costs?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Who said anything about paying for postage? COD is how to do it.
Besides, how much is one envelope fattened with 5 or 6 pieces of paper?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

To all, we received a very large order worth 600K EUR. We changed the contract, secure the payment cash in advance 40% and L/C.

We are visiting them on this coming Friday - I am worry becos of this forum - I am alert to any scam - I will give you a feedback of our visit. My wife is chinese so she can translate all conversations. The buyer does not speak english.

You have to know that they may invite you in order to get commissions from you that is the reason they do not negociate prices. I will know more for sure this friday after our visit at their office.

For information the office building is different from the one on their website. We sent a friend to check out the place - but it is a nice office.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, it's good to hear that we are not the only ones.

I wonder how many people have indeed fallen for this scam...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We have all informed all the authorities of our visit in Shenzhen. If it is a scam, I fill a police report in China as well as European Council in Hong Kong. We are taking all necessary precaution like to documents, no money, no belongings with us. I will hired our own driver as some friends informed that one of the scam is to kidnap foreigners and ask for money to the company.

keep you posted
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The same in Poland. We have received an enquiry (by fax) for over 200.000 EUR. The conditions are 40% prepayment and L\C. They easily accepted the content of our contract after very short time of consideration. They did not negotiate the prices and said that have no experience in international trade. We are invited to visit them to sign the contract because they want to "know us better". They are impatient but very polite. I called them 3 times and the women I spoke was a secretary of a man indicated in their enquiry. I was told the man does not speak English. They faxed us a confirmation letter and their business documents in Chinese.
As it is impossible to our president to visit them this month we suggested a video conference but they insist on visiting them. They did not answer for our invitation to Poland.
Should we be afraid?
What kind of scam may it be? Kidnapping - what elese??

The company is:
GUANGDONG GANGTAIYUAN GROUP CO.,LTD
Address:7/F, Jingfeng Building, South Shangbu Road, Futian Dist, Shenzhen
E-mail:[email protected]
Mr. Hu Feng
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Please update us
Thank you
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

misha wrote:
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oh here's their website (googl):
http://www.gangtaiyuan.com/en/index.asp
that page lists a [email protected] fo an address. A legit company of that size doing such a "domestic fix asset of RMB 100 million yuan, liquid money of RMB 180 million yuan, oversea immovable property of USD 6 million and operating fund of USD 11.3 million" and only one page in a non-Chinese language in a section designated /en/ Question And using (from the website) a @yahoo.com.cn email address Question

Exclamation Not likely

many more thing of simular nature regarding that website/url.

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