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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

How safe is yahoo to use when baiting, with IP's and all. Confused


fixed that; ISP is what provides your access to the internet Wink TS

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just use gmail or fastmail if you want to be 100% risky free.

Yahoo reveals your IP information.

If you've already been using yahoo, don't worry too much. It's highly unlikely that twisted criminals are hunting you down as we speak. Just make the swap when you have the chance to be on the safe side.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the tip

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Except that you have to follow a few other rules to be sure about gmail. Nothing is 100%. Don't just believe that if you use gmail you are as secure as you can be.

Only use the web interface, don't send anything that can be traced, don't sign up with any personal information, don't allow google employees to give out your computer IP, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

When you say "don't send anything that can be traced" i assume thats any kind of personal info in the email right?
How do I ensure gmail wont give out my isp address?
I want to get this security as tight as possible on gmail

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

jim bowen wrote:
How do I ensure gmail wont give out my isp address?


TSnerd wrote:
ISP is what provides your access to the internet


DrWho wrote:
Only use the web interface

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

There's quite a few security tick boxes you can check off with your mentor. If you're new here and don't know what that is you can pm a hot Thai chick named "Cherrie", who will set you up with a kind of tutor. A mentor will keep you up to speed on some effective baiting modalities, answer your questions regarding security and give you a list of names of members who are neurotic and should be avoided at all costs.

Regarding the gmail question.

Dr Who mentioned that if you use gmail, you should only use the web interface. If you use outlook for example to send mail through gmail, your IP will not be secure.

I am not sure how safe the chat is.

Don't use any real personal info when you create an account. Use fake details instead.

@Dr who.... what do you mean about google employees? Sorry I've been at work for 50 odd hours now and I'm brain dead and postwhoring.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

battery wrote:
@Dr who.... what do you mean about google employees?


It's directed at the maximum safety mantra. People religiously believe that Google is safe because it doesn't give out your IP whereas other mail providers do. In practical terms this would mean: There's no chance your lad would take you to court to get your home address from your IP, he had to bribe one of your ISP's employees. Dr. Who's argument is that your lad could as well bribe a Google employee...just because your IP isn't transmitted to the recipient that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

In my opinion there's little practical difference between your lad having to bribe your ISP or having to bribe Google (in fact both) - it just won't happen. Please be careful to not include any directly traceable personal details, adresses, phone numbers etc. in your baits and to not host your baits/pictures at your personal domain. And try to not link to your personal blog from your Eater signature. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You scared the shit out of me. I just spent twenty minutes looking through my profile information for a link to my personal blog.

I don't even have a personal blog!

This is mod abuse. I'm writing to Shiver.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

One more "never".

Never click the green banner on the top of an incoming email to display pictures, unless you want to give your scammer one of these:

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 To      [email protected]      81% probability that this location is accurate
From     [email protected]
Subject     Hello
Sent on     8-Mar-07 at 09:25:53am 'GB' time
1st Open    
 8-Mar-07 at 18:42:18pm   +00:00    (81%) Sunnydale, California, United States

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Opened    8-Mar-07 at 18:42:18pm (UTC +00:00)   -   9hours16mins17secs after sending
Location    Sunnydale, California, United States (81% likelihood)
Opened on    pool-72-249-13-20łsnfrcałdsl-włverizonłnet (72ł249ł13ł20:1323)
Language    of recipient's PC: en-us (English/United States)
Browser    used by recipient: Moz/4.0 (MSIE 6.0; WinNT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1)
Referrer    http://us. f346. mail. yahoo. com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=287_1841985_2114199_4192_4199_0_419416_4196_41955820

Summary   -   as at 8-Mar-07 at 18:42:38pm (UTC +00:00)   -   9hours16mins42secs after sending
Total    Opened 1 time by 1 reader

Click here for up-to-date (live) tracking information.
(I've edited that heavily for anonymity.)

Not terribly dangerous in itself, but it certainly makes using gmail pointless, and it could blow a bait out of the water.

Opening attached pictures is OK, the green banner appears when the email contains links to pictures stored on a 3rd-party webserver. Of course 99% of the time you see it it will be because your lad found a picture of a bunch of red roses that he wants to give you.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You will surely die if you give out your IP. You might as well tie your own noose.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I use hushmail for baiting.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

thud419 wrote:
... Never click the green banner ...


Even better: never click on *anything* in an email.

Especially in emails from lads.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's an interesting point. How identifiable you are from your IP address depends on many factors of your ISP.

Whilst your IP address does uniquely identify your computer, it would be very hard if not impossible to trace. I'm with BT broadband and my IP address identifies me as being at various alternate locations in southern UK.

It probably makes a difference if you are using multi personalities for getting rumbled, though?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My point was to get people thinking about what really matters in an amusing way.

As Don has stated a few times in other places, people seem to have the impression that if they hide their IP address they are as safe as a baby in the hospital. There are many ways to find you. Most are by mistakes you make that have nothing to do with your IP address. Even with your IP address it is difficult to find you closely enough to beat you up. And the way someone would find you would be the same process with or without your address. That would be to social engineer an employee at your ISP or have a court order. I can web bug your email and with a very good change of success find out where you are that way. I can get you to go to my web page and get your IP that way if I really needed to. So you are better off spending some extra time being sure you have covered your other tracks and traceable information than agonizing about which email you use.

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Just use gmail or fastmail if you want to be 100% risky free.
This statement is misleading and wrong. You will not be 100% safe. Your IP will be hidden, that is all.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

thud419 wrote:
One more "never".

Never click the green banner on the top of an incoming email to display pictures, unless you want to give your scammer one of these:



sorry I am too stupid to understand

which "green banner" do you talk about?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay, before I say anything it is 0250 hours where I am at in the US and I am bit tipsy. The Mugus are not going to track you down just to throw you a beating. There is no money in it for them. Besides (if they are in West Africa) itís going to cost a lot of money for visa and what not. I doubt a lad will spend his precious money to beat you up just because you made him pose for a picture with a fish on his head.
Also never in the history of baiting has a lad ever thrown a baiter a beating, even if he really wanted to find you, there just isnít enough information revealed through an IP address. They are far more important thing you should be doing to keep your self safe. With that said, use Gmail or Fastmail.Fm. But donít forget to keep your self safe in other ways. Bait google free; donít give out information that can be linked to you etc, etc.
Sorry about my rant but I think we should tell the newbe that just because you are using Gmail that does not make them 100% safe unless there are taking other precautions.
As for me I have used Yahoo and received many death threats. Iím still here. Iím off track a bit. The threats the lads give are to scare you into sending the money to them. Thatís about all they can do to you is send empty threats.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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