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Clint-Thrust
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Joined: 13 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have turned a money scam into my lad now eager to represent artists to receive a grant. In doing this I have sent him an application document for each artist to fill in, page III which is below.

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My concern is this. Some baits require us to send 'official looking' documents etc. How concerned should I be that my lad will use these for his own purpose in the future?

If this is a concern..what's the way around this if documents need to be sent?

Should I have maybe made the document with a more 'photo-copied look' which would hopefully have fooled my lad but not Joe Public? I resisted this in my eagerness to bait him. Sad

Advice please. Confused

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Captain Pike
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Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

One adage here is to make the lad do all of the work. That being said, there are going to be situations where you have to develop some infrastructure, such as the form you've created, if you are serious about setting a hook deep inside of him. I've used some so-called WU forms that baiters here have made available for our use.

I don't have the experience here that some others have, so it's difficult for me to comment as to the chances of your work being re-cycled. I'll defer to those who are more expert.

I'm sure that everyone here will be glad that you're thinking this one through. Good luck, and good baiting.

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"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.

"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007

"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007

As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation.
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Clint-Thrust
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Many thanks for the reply.

As you pointed out, I am serious about setting the hook deep inside which is why I went for a 'professional' look to the document...but it is a concern.

I think it'll be ok. Any serious artist who received such documents would no doubt try to google The Mel*** Wor** A*t Fou**ation and realise it was a hoax.

Thanks

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Give me break down and step by step on what to do. I want to be your representatives in Nigeria" - Ever So Helpful George

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Saint Arnold
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What Barry said. Lad forms tend to be things that will help them move forward in a scam - a fake passport for identification, proof that a trunkbox is being held at a consignment company, that sort of thing. They are interested in forms that will help money come to them, not the other way around. Why would they have you fill out a form applying for a grant? Unless you had to pay some fee to collect the grant.... I dunno, I guess it's possible, but I haven't seen that format - I'd say go for it.

Barry's comment about the infrastructure is important. Many baiters have set up Web sites, ip phone networks, that sort of thing to assist in their baiting. The general idea is that a little work on your part results in a lot of work and heartache on theirs. Plus, that form you created is not just for this lad - you can use it over and over again in many different baits. Overall, the return is well worth the investment in time you've given it.

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The baiter formerly known as Krona

Our legal team are on standby for the next line of action in this very interesting case.already they are still studying the MTCN number that you sent,it will be used as evidence together with your full names and address,when this epic battle commences. - the one and only Charles Soludo


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Cellphone x15 (RIP) United Kingdom x7 South Africa x1
Safari Lottery lad, Benin City - Abuja Safari A new minister, Lagos-Benin City Safari The same minister, Lagos - Tamale, Ghana
Safari Dr. Johnson - Abidjan-Abuja and back again (so far! - 1666 miles round trip)

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Last edited by Saint Arnold on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:09 am; edited 1 time in total
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Captain Pike
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ Huh? 7/9?

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"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.

"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007

"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007

As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation.
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Yastreb
Demented Opportunist


Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, a fleeting glimpse could give the impression of a Seven of Nine rather than Christopher Pike... just!

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Saint Arnold
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

D'OH! The post has been edited with the correct name. You see, I was thinking about Barry's OLD avatar, and how much I liked that better than.... better than.... what's his name? It wasn't Picard for sure, must have been Piker, no, that doesn't sound right, too much like Riker, so off to some Star Trek sites to remind myself that it was Capt Pike... by the time I got back I was all Star Trekky so of COURSE I was responding to 7/9's post. Total brain fart - could have happened to anybody.

Well, probably couldn't have happened to most people, but that's what happened to me. Sorry, Barry.

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The baiter formerly known as Krona

Our legal team are on standby for the next line of action in this very interesting case.already they are still studying the MTCN number that you sent,it will be used as evidence together with your full names and address,when this epic battle commences. - the one and only Charles Soludo


--------------------------
Cellphone x15 (RIP) United Kingdom x7 South Africa x1
Safari Lottery lad, Benin City - Abuja Safari A new minister, Lagos-Benin City Safari The same minister, Lagos - Tamale, Ghana
Safari Dr. Johnson - Abidjan-Abuja and back again (so far! - 1666 miles round trip)

pony <----because life can seem bleary and bleak without one. TS
pony Because Lotta is a great and beautiful mod!
Mortar x21
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Captain Pike
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Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OK OK, the old avatar is now back!

Captain Pike has been exiled to Talos IV.

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Mortar x13 Closed lad accounts x5 Sand Timer (393 days)

"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.

"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007

"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007

As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation.
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kleindoofy
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Joined: 24 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

And this guy's glad he's back:

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(That role was played by a woman, btw.)
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Captain Pike
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Another bit of trivia: Malachi Throne, who provided the voice for one of the Talosians, was also Commodore Mendez in the two part episode that featured Captain Pike.

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Mortar x13 Closed lad accounts x5 Sand Timer (393 days)

"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.

"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007

"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007

As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation.
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