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 Can the seniors tell us why this is a scam...

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cahuna
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's a post in the little read surplus letters forum entitled "Work from Home"

Comments on what elements of this point to an obvious scam would help the learning curve...

Posted by bobbywatts24

P.S. Not sure how to put a link in to the forum and post - maybe a mod can help out?

[mod edit: I assume you mean this thread: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101303 - KD (just copy&paste the URL from the address window of your browser)]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@cahuna

You already asked this question in the quoted thread, but I guess a second try can't hurt this time.

People looking for part time home workers don't find their employees using spam emails. When you respond, they will probably ask for some kind of fee, and then another, etc. etc.

There's no job, just fees for you to pay = scam.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Another dead giveaway is that the contact email addy does not match the domain of the company being impersonated. Why would they spend all the money to buy a domain name, and then use yahoo for email?

Just my $.02 - payable via WU transfer... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Can someone tell me how long the website has been up? How do you find out this information out?

A quick look through the site and it looks pretty comprehensive to me. A lot of work appears to have gone into it.

Maybe it's innocent and the person who's set it up is a bit thick?

Apart from the obvious:

1. Unsolicited email
2. Free email address
3. Lack of phone numbers/email addresses on the "Contact us" page
4. Lack of the security when in the checkout page

What else is a real giveaway?

Come on folks.................. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
I am looking for a trustworthy
representative in the canada and united states that will aid as a
link between me and my clients over there {USA/CANADA}. I
would like to know if you are interested. Please reply only if you
will like to work from home part-time and get paid in percentage
without leaving or it affecting your present job.


That is 100% Employment/Mule scam.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the site, Cheapfabrics.co.uk.
It is legitimate and being used by the lads to backstop their story, that is all.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

As with most scammers, that link is to the real website...

However contact address for him [email protected] (HongKong?) is a bit suspicious as it would normally be on the websites domain e.g. [email protected] That my frined is a dead giveaway.

The site itself is legit I guess without spending the time to look at it. Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Tsnerd. I'd assumed that the website was also dodgy and misread the post about informing the domain owner (had taken that as they were reporting it as a fake site). Still learning! Smile

Thanks for helping out.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think I see the point of confusion cahuna. As far as I can see the website is legit - the one at

http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/

the scam is the e-mail you received purporting (scrabble bonus points) to represent that site/company. That's why there is no direct link in the scam mail. That is often what they do in case you do a google search to verify the authenticity, and clearly that is not enough.

The scam mail is pretty duff - Hongkong - UK - USA/Canada - yeah right ? and it would undoubtedly result in receiving cheques for the scam company (not the website people) and no sensible company would entrust their payment receipts to an employee gained by spam mail.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

GomerPyle wrote:

That's why there is no direct link in the scam mail. That is often what they do in case you do a google search to verify the authenticity, and clearly that is not enough.


That's what got me, there is a link in the mail:

Thanks..
Mr David Sheets
Managing Director
Cheapfabrics.co.uk
Thames Court,1 Victoria St,
Windsor,Berkshire,SL4 1YB.
Email [email protected]

And the streetmap.co.uk postcode reference is Sheet Street! I think I need to go to bed. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You are welcome, Cahuna.

And that is exactly why lad's use this tactic- it is all merged together.

Remember- the best lies are those that use real details Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

For me the #1 giveaway: WORK FROM HOME

You do not even need to read anything more.
You can be -100 risky free - sure that it is a scam.

- Either an advance-fee scam:
Send me $$$ and then I will send you the starter kit, manual, software for a highly paid at home job.

- Or some shady pyramid scam:
We pay if you recruit more "employees".

- Or check fraud/ money laundering:
The alleged "clients" send you fake checks and you, as the "employee" of this Whatever Company has to cash this check, then send the money (MG or WU) to an obscure - usually Asian, African, East-European address.

Here, in the US both authorities and consumer advocates groups send out, post repeated warnings regarding work from home web sites, mails or e-mails.

It is a very serious scam. Victims loose thousands of dollars, and could face charges of tax evasion, money laundering, check fraud.

(Check this site for a long list of companies with similar needs:
http://www.data-wales.co.uk/ni_fake_jobs.htm )


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I do quite well "working" for my boss. His customers send me money. I like that. I have received just over $20.000.00 USD in 3 weeks by money orders, ordinary personal cheques and American Express cheques.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
I am looking for a trustworthy
representative

That's all I had to see Laughing
As others have said, sometimes the site used in mule scams is fake, but most of the time lads are cheap and lazy, so they just use a real company's website (whilst writing from a yahoo account) and hope the vic doesn't call the contact number on the website or notice the freemail addy.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jeff wrote:
I do quite well "working" for my boss. His customers send me money. I like that. I have received just over $20.000.00 USD in 3 weeks by money orders, ordinary personal cheques and American Express cheques.
I just can't seem to be able to transfer his 90%, there always seems to be a problem Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A detail like a return email address not matching a domain name probably isnt noticeable for a typical victim.

Just the way some lads can embrace the notion that you must take a picture of yourself with a pickle in your mouth, in order to complete a wire transfer.

Lads look for gullible victims the way baiters look for gullible lads. They are the low-hanging fruit.
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