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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article385529.ece

Time to call in Randi.... Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ghost Hunters and TAPS will be there next week I am sure, to do their "scientific" investigation.

Ghost Hunters makes a great drinking game, whenever they talk about psuedoscience and EVP take a drink/shot. Makes you laugh even more at them.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A better quality YouTube video (yes, I said quality AND YouTube in the same sentence!):

Swingy McSwing


I vote a wind tube... Box it off I say!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Clearly resonance. The frame is picking up a vibration and the middle swing is just the right length to hit a subharmonic of it. There does appear to be some industry around there, or it could be a subsonic whistle from the wind.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Two-and-a-half minutes of watching some swings move? What a great way to spend some time!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thud ...hate to disagree, but it does not look like ressonance to me or even subsonic wistle.

For something like that to happen some other phisical effects would have to show on the frame as well, or the other 2 swings.

Take the subsonic wistle, you would have to have different ares of vibration on the all frame and the base should show it was receiving vibration

it's either a very good hoax or ...call the ghost busters.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

from the article: "Academics have now ruled out magnetic and electrical fields, and winds".

being a so-called academic myself I am quite suspicious when unnamed academics are cited in articles of this sort. (or maybe i am bitter because they didn't consult me)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Are you a crypto-kinetic pendulum academic, though?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Spooky, but I think any explanation seems more probable than swings being moved by something left over from dead people. I don't know if anyone has worked out how many people have lived and died before we got here, but if their ghosts exist, the planet should be going mental by now.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Weird indeed. The ghost doesn't even swing straight! I hate that. Laughing

They said that it began (or they noticed it) four months ago. What, if anything, happened preceeding the onset?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Roycropper wrote:
I don't know if anyone has worked out how many people have lived and died before we got here.
Wikipedia wrote:
Estimates of the number of human beings who have ever lived on Earth constitute an extremely large range, with low estimates around 45 billion, and the highest estimates topping out around 125 billion. Many of the more robust estimates fall into the range of 90 to 110 billion humans.
Ima Baeder wrote:
What, if anything, happened preceeding the onset?
Someone installed the electric motor. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

See the kid leaning against the swings at the beginning? Notice how he flips the start switch with his foot. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm, we didn't see underneath it did we? A small battery powered motor and an eccentric weight maybe?

100 billion is a lot of ghosts. Funny I never see any, even on WW1 battlefields, or at the Colleseum....

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Damn....how did i miss that. on the other hand it could well be a ghost Wink

I was dead for 19 minutes in 1987 and came back, just to pester my ex mother in law Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^Death for 19 minutes in 1987 is very much like making love to a beautiful woman...la petite mort...only slightly longer.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That happened to my brother, too. He died for several minutes in a motorcycle accident. I was quick to point out that his wedding vows were only "Til death do you part"

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hang gliding accident...broke a few bones Very Happy and my pride, fell from 90 feet high in a Microburst, but the all 19 minutes were the most amazing experience of my life
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Roycropper wrote:
but if their ghosts exist, the planet should be going mental by now.

In most places it is to varying degrees, such is the socieity we live in.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We used to have a member here who claimed to honestly believe in spirits and hauted houses, etc. He defended every report of the presence of ghosts.

He actually got very upset when people called 'bull' and said his feelings were hurt.

I never figured out if he was really incredibly stupid or just baiting us. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's an interesting shot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgXvmP469k

Is that the same place? It certainly isn't the same swing. And it seems to be significantly windy.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

well i hapen to believe...i mean i had to be somewhere during those 19 minutes, and i do remember and saw ecerything that hapened to me Wink

but believing in life afer death is an all together different matter from "ghost" storys or even paranormal phenomena.
i don't believe in MOST of them...there are the odd ones tho that leave you with just that margin that defies rationality.

Difficult subject anyway, we leave in a tridimensional world that does not give us the "tools" to properly understand or make sense of imaterial matters, that religion claims to understand and in fact just distorts even more...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I had surgery a few years ago, and I distinctly remember coming out of my body and floating up by the ceiling and watching the surgery. Admittedly, it's possible that my brain was hearing the conversations in the room and creating the visual part of it as a sort of dream. But I remember it nonetheless.

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The Sun wrote:
Academics have now ruled out magnetic and electrical fields, and winds � and called in ghosthunters.


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That's their (academics) answer to everything Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Would you all please stop talking about me like I�m not right here listening.

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I think I remember the member you are talking about. He had one of those ghost finding machines and everything. I always though he was being sincere. I mean not baiting us.

I am surprised how many people believe in ghosts (it�s okay to believe in me though). And not just an afterlife but ghost moving things around a home just to jack with the owner. To each his own I guess.

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