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Herb Sewell
419Eater is my life
Joined: 19 Aug 2006
Posts: 406
Location: Atascadero State Hospital for the Criminally Insane
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:22 pm |
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This seems to be a pretty big deal. I have heard estimates ranging from 10,000 to 1 Million computers working as bots taking down/ clogging up sites. How does this process work? What is being done? It looks like urgentmessage.org is down also, that was a good source of addresses for me. If urgent... is set up as an automatically running site, it may be down for a long time. Does anybody know who runs it? We should really be developing an automatic baiter to counter these low lifes. |
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Captain Pike
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 2579
Location: Starbase 11
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:29 pm |
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I'm not in the know, but my gut feeling is that this cost someone a lot of money to execute. And I mean a *lot*. |
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Pyrosoft
419Eater is my life
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 493
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:33 pm |
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Without wishing to get off topic here, this is the site I use for getting all my lads addresses
Repository
Run by one of the members here and is a fantastic resource so you wont be lost for lads to bait. |
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bearkat419
Baiting Guru
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 4445
Location: Houston, TX
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:41 pm |
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Hey, at the end of the day, we won & they lost...
We're still here, and they've spent a ton of money. And, isn't that our ultimate goal anyway, to make lads spend money?
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Herb Sewell
419Eater is my life
Joined: 19 Aug 2006
Posts: 406
Location: Atascadero State Hospital for the Criminally Insane
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:45 pm |
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The early consensus is that it costed money? I have googled and not found a lot on just exactly this process works. Is there "a man" that a scammer or group of scammers that someone can go to to get this done? Is it just one rich guy or did some scammers get together? How does a bot network work? Do the sites targeted come back after the bots turn off? |
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MrMe
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 593
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:01 pm |
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as far as I know...
"The early consensus is that it costed money?" - Yes
"Is there "a man" that a scammer or group of scammers that someone can go to to get this done?" - more likely the botnet would be owned by a gang rather than one person.
"Is it just one rich guy or did some scammers get together?" - No idea, but it would have to be a very rich scammer to be able to pay for it, so in my opinion its probably a group of scammers.
"How does a bot network work?" - Someone at home / work downloads a screensaver or some other program which has a trojan in it - which allows the owner of the trojan to access and control the computer. If thousands of people install the program, the bot master can control thousands of computers, making them all try to access one website - which will 'melt' the server.
"Do the sites targeted come back after the bots turn off?" - yes, generally.
Feel free to correct me if I've said anything wrong. |
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I am almost having a bad sight as a result of click on the box
my eyes are paining me now cos i have been
looking at the computer for more than six hours
you cannot subject me to this suffering
i am sick and tired of this shit.
I don't go with this Idea at all, this is not how business is done
whenever i make mistake even at the peak of retrieving the numbers i would ask to go back to the begining and this has virtually consumed all my time by doing this
i cant stress my self any more..I now have a back pain cos of this
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thud419
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 3193
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:28 pm |
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This cost money; either real currency or just tying up a bot network that could have been doing other, paid, work.
It is very interesting to me, that some group is coherent enough to find it economically viable to commit the resources required for the length of time that they have. |
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buried under 419 emails
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Oct 2003
Posts: 4747
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:27 am |
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It cost them money both to do it and as an outcome. I have increased my bank killing and baiting quite a bit and plan to keep it going for as long as I can.
Hey mugus for every action there is an exact and opposite reaction.
You mess with domains to slow down the baiting and bank killing. It increases baiting bank killing and everything you�re trying to stop
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michael bolton
Master Baiter
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 175
Location: Texas
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:59 am |
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I'm sure that they have caused a few headaches around here, but in the long term they have hurt themselves. They can't sustain the attack indefinitely, and in the meantime Eater has upgraded to a better service, making it harder for the next DOS to succeed. I've doubled the number of baits that I'm running, diversified my file storage, and turned my name gold. How many non-premium members are left around here? If anything, they have helped Eater, because more people are more active, and as soon as it is over with I'm sure there will be an explosion of new members, because I'm probably not the only one recruiting my friends to come check the site out.
And anyway, I'm having a lot of fun, annoying a lot of lads, and it doesn't affect my life or my business. |
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DrWho
Baiting Guru
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 5486
Location: Where ever I go, there I am
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:02 am |
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I my opinion this has not cost money. As far as I can research, this is caused by the Storm worm. A group in Russia sent out a loaded email about the storms in Europe over the summer or spring, I forget. They were able to zombie over 100K computers. I also heard up to 1.2 million. Then to demonstrate their ability, they picked a group of anti-spam/scam site to take down. They can use a small percentage of their botnet while allowing the other bots to operate unimpeded.
But that is all only my opinion. |
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Pastor Frank
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 12237
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:37 am |
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harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 1489
Location: Not Happy
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:43 am |
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From my reading of the storm worm and associated info. It is quite conceivable that once initiated the DDOS attack can run until every infected pc is cleaned. It seems that the new strains don't require a bot master and are replicating themselves daily. So unless the person who started it calls a stop to it it will continue unabated. Lets face it it's not the scammers servers that are sending this out it's the infected PC's all over the world. |
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michael bolton
Master Baiter
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 175
Location: Texas
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:31 am |
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Pastor Frank wrote: |
Some related links... |
A good read. Thanks. |
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Ginch
Master Baiter
Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Posts: 208
Location: Here...and there!
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:09 am |
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St�rmw�rm ist kaputt? Article dated 10/22.
Great to be back, all - Lotta, thanks for the email! |
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Rodus
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 3685
Location: Back under the cold shower
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:20 am |
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^^Interesting article, but a few security experts have been saying for a while that storm worm activity would drop when the authors were preparing for phase 2. Split the net into smaller ones and rent them out. Not dead, just resting. |
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