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harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:29 pm |
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Scam Patroller
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Posts: 11857
Location: UK
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:39 pm |
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Doctor X
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 766
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Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:24 pm |
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Another to add to the "Do Not Feel Sorry for Lads" pile!
Fortunately this victim lived to learn from this. |
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Reaper
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Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 0
Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:26 am |
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Saw the story on the news last night, poor guy.
I'm baiting about 6 different vlads at the moment. Low life scums. |
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Murry Guru
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:50 pm |
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There was another article aired tonight in Australia, it appears the same man went to russia a few years back to meet up with his Vlad and he came back empty handed on that occasion as well, at least he ws not kidnapped and beaten with a machete while in Russia.
I hate to say it but one would think that to fall for this the first time is a little foolish, falling for much the same thing a second time would explain why he did not want to be named and also why he would not look into the camera.
I am trying hard not to sound insulting but this is not an example of how bright Aussies can be.
The good news story in this is the publicity it has given the whole scam scene but in particular the romance scams that are going on.
The Lad in question here uses pics of a black girl and uses the name Natacha, I dont suppose anybody here has baited her as the quick shot of the picture looked very familiar.
Also included in tonights article was a piece on a man who lost heaps of money (over 1 million if I heard correctly) on a lottery scam
And finally, a question to our mods,
It would seem that plenty of us have found out about this story, checked the romance forum, found no story on it then posted it up there without first checking the general chat forum (myself included).
Just an idea but, perhaps if this thread was moved to the romance forum it may save you having to lock and move a few more threads. |
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Scam Patroller
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
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Location: UK
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:00 pm |
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Nurse Nasty
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: Australia, where a dingo stole my eski
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:00 pm |
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Murry Guru wrote: |
Just an idea but, perhaps if this thread was moved to the romance forum it may save you having to lock and move a few more threads. |
Please don't create extra work for us. It there is one thing we hate doing, it's clicking buttons.
This is a general chat, or even a main scam baiting issue. Sometimes, on the rare occasions it happens, some people do a quick search before posting.
edit - HA! Double mod whammy at exactly the same time. |
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Began Steele
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 591
Location: Off spending my millions.
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:43 pm |
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Lucky man ! Very lucky. |
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And turns no more his head;
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Doth close behind him tread."
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Tasman
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 1951
Location: In an offside position
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:55 pm |
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Where did you see the picture of the Natacha. I had about three refugees going at one point last month. |
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Murry Guru
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:08 pm |
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Mods,
No offence intended, Just an idea with those too lazy to do a search prior to posting in mind. Myself included.
@Tasman
On an article on A curent affair tonight (shown only in Australia I would presume) they showed some footage of the emails as well as a picture of Natacha, it was only a few seconds that the picture was up.
I have not tried myself (1159 pm and I am just about to turn into a pumpkin) but sometimes that program also shows details of their story on their website, try a Google search [email protected], I took a guess but good chance it is right, you should get a hit on google even if it is wrong |
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wayne
Account closed at users request
Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Posts: 3630
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:08 pm |
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CowboyBuck
Elite Baiter
Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 1077
Location: Riding the Western Union Trail
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:03 pm |
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Does anyone here have a copy of the original email sent to the Australian?
Given how much publicity these scams have been given, it seems amazing that someone would still fall for one. |
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Rodus
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 3685
Location: Back under the cold shower
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:03 pm |
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^^^Unfortunately many people can and do fall for them. |
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Began Steele
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 591
Location: Off spending my millions.
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:33 pm |
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Yes it would be nice to get a handle on this affair. Set this lot up for another kidnapping event. Don't need a mass bait just a very good script and a coordinated effort and baiters who aren't after individual efforts , but just wish to produce a group effort. That bunch will murder next and we have a life to save . |
_________________ X 13
"Like one who, on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round, walks on,
And turns no more his head;
because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."
"Thank you for making a fool of my situation God will bless you for all you have done to me for the past three months." [ With a certain amount of luck he will.]
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence
on those who would do us harm."-George Orwell.
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wayne
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:43 pm |
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Even knowing the IP address the scammers were using, there's no guarantee you'd be dealing with the same people. They move from internet cafe to internet cafe, and the scammer on the PC from 8-2 won't be the same one on there from 2-4 or 5-8 or 9-2. You get the idea. Much as we'd love to bait the gang, there's no way to be sure we are. More's the pity. |
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Began Steele
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 591
Location: Off spending my millions.
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:06 am |
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Yes I guess so. Hope it was a one off. Hope the bunch are quivering with fear waiting for the law to arrive. Huh! Some chance? |
_________________ X 13
"Like one who, on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round, walks on,
And turns no more his head;
because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."
"Thank you for making a fool of my situation God will bless you for all you have done to me for the past three months." [ With a certain amount of luck he will.]
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence
on those who would do us harm."-George Orwell.
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Reaper
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Joined: 06 May 2007
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Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:22 am |
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I am trying hard not to sound insulting but this is not an example of how bright Aussies can be. |
Grrrr, Grrrr. All different nationalities fall for this, are you implying that the average Australian is dumb? Most Australians have a good education though our Government have not been so great to the Aboriginals.
So to make this post not completely offtopic, it doesn't really matter what nationality the victim is. Happens to everyone and unless I'm mistaken not really to any particular nation. |
_________________ 110+
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Shola - 4.3k miles Lagos - Abidjan | Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos - Sokoto "i have not eaten anything except water"
Mr Floyd - Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos -N'Djamena --> Abeche, with RS (7 days in hell ) "we are dieing here"
Art Trophies: <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129502">Eva Bust</a> - <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135167">Reaper's Art Gallery</a>
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Murry Guru
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 am |
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@Reaper,
You are correct in most of what you write,
Just to clarify
This is not a good example of how bright Aussies can be.
Meaning almost all Aussies are smarter than this.
Yes you are correct, people from all over the world fall for this type of scam, however few fall for it twice.
Way off topic but,
Our (yes our) Government certainly has not been great to all Aboriginals however generally speaking most Aboriginals in my generation at least, have had the same oportunities as others but a minority choose not to make the most of the oportunities available to them.
My assessment is based on the fact that I am an Australian (born and bred and proud of it), and I do have a fair percentage of Aboriginal blood myself.
In fact I have never been outside Australia, never had a passport, never needed one.
Now you must agree that most, if not all Aussies you know, and I am sure you know plenty, would not fall for this twice.
Are we friends again |
_________________ "I want to hold your hand and let you scream at me while you bring our child into this world"- Linda Lopez
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Click to learn how to romance bait Click to get your name in mugu gold
Got info on a scam vic? PM a mod Recieved a scam warning? Say "thank you, I am a baiter"
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Reaper
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 0
Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:56 am |
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Sure, come here...
In my history class, we just finished our Aboriginal history...stuff. Very interesting history.
Sorry I didn't realise you were Aussie |
_________________ 110+
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Shola - 4.3k miles Lagos - Abidjan | Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos - Sokoto "i have not eaten anything except water"
Mr Floyd - Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos -N'Djamena --> Abeche, with RS (7 days in hell ) "we are dieing here"
Art Trophies: <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129502">Eva Bust</a> - <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135167">Reaper's Art Gallery</a>
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Gnasher
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 2849
Location: Centre Stage in the Theatre of Cruelty
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:23 am |
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All joking aside, there are plenty of lonely, isolated, single farmers here who crave 'a good woman' in their lives and so would fall easy prey to the scammers. I agree that for it to happen not once, but twice to this guy doesn't say much for his judgment or smarts but I can see how a clever scammer would have spotted his vulnerability and lured him in. I think love scammers are the lowest of them all because not only do they rob their victims blind, they also break their hearts in the process and leave them financially and emotionally broken. He had a very lucky escape and although I'm glad his story has been widely publicised for other potential victims to learn from, I do feel sorry for the poor guy who has been publicly humiliated in this blaze of publicity. |
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"they are in deed the swinders rotating about in the net and searching for whom they will stylishly defraud your belongings" A. Moron
"Please pray harder for God to guide and protect us during our travelling because flight airplane i observe is a very big risky" Abdul Karibu
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Reaper
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 0
Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:25 am |
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I'm taking on another vlad every day! I'm doing 8-9 different ones...thank god for gmails labels |
_________________ 110+
x15 x18 50+
Shola - 4.3k miles Lagos - Abidjan | Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos - Sokoto "i have not eaten anything except water"
Mr Floyd - Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos -N'Djamena --> Abeche, with RS (7 days in hell ) "we are dieing here"
Art Trophies: <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129502">Eva Bust</a> - <a href="http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135167">Reaper's Art Gallery</a>
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harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 1489
Location: Not Happy
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:36 am |
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Gnash did you see any reports where the clearly outlined the scams ?
Most of the reporting I saw on this seemed to glean over the cause. I think there is a lot more education required.
I for one and looking for
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Murry Guru
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Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:00 am |
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I was having a look today on the ACA website for details on last nights story and stumbled on this by doing a search on 'scam'
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/search.aspx?collection=aca2&query=scam
Very vague information and I only found it because I was looking for it.
One part of particular note was;
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Dealing with the criminal syndicate is a deadly business, the Australian Government warns that fourteen people have been murdered trying to get their money back.
The FBI and the Australian Federal Police are at the forefront of the campaign to stop this internet fraud, which targets 200 million people around the world every year. |
Now I know I am as biased as the next scambaiter, but I would think that groups like ours probably plays a bigger part in protecting people than the police when dealing with internet fraud.
BTW, I could not find anything on the Aussie we are discussing here.
@Reaper,
Glad we are friends again.
@Gnasher,
Yes I agree, and I do feel sorry for the bloke and understand that he would be vulnerable. I would also like to think that his friends and family would be looking out for him a little better.
I do however believe that it is for the overall good to 'publicly humiliate' him in order to educate others. Always easier to learn from others mistakes than your own.
@Harrya,
I dont know how much value it would be, but do you think if one of us (by that I mean one of our more experienced Aussie baiters such as you Gnasher or U&U) was to contact ACA, explain what we do and get information from them on the emails, then use the information to bait the crap out of this particular group. ACAs reward could be access to the emails for a follow up story.
The generated publicity cant do our cause any harm, it would also be good to see them place some pressure on WU by naming and shaming them as the best means for scammers to empty out pockets.
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_________________ "I want to hold your hand and let you scream at me while you bring our child into this world"- Linda Lopez
Bait with Frumpy on the hitman "i though we are partners in this and now u turn around to stub me on the back"
Click to learn how to romance bait Click to get your name in mugu gold
Got info on a scam vic? PM a mod Recieved a scam warning? Say "thank you, I am a baiter"
Ruin your pets day, post their details at scamwarners
<- I run like a girl
x12 ? not enough
<- this one belongs to Ralph. |
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Gnasher
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 2849
Location: Centre Stage in the Theatre of Cruelty
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:54 pm |
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harrya wrote: |
Gnash did you see any reports where the clearly outlined the scams ?
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No, these scam stories are sometimes aired on the 6.30 'current affairs' (HA!) shows but they always focus on the Aussie battlerpensioner who's been scammed and/or they set up a sting so a reporter can shove a microphone under a fleeing lads nose telling him he should be ashamed of himself. I have never seen any reports on TV/radio/newspaper where they clearly outline HOW the victim was scammed. I guess it doesn't have the 'wow' factor for an audience with the attention span of a deckchair. |
_________________ x21
"you have to pay because he need to submit this form to the Federal Ministry Of Fancies" Barrister John/Mike/Richard Okeke
"they are in deed the swinders rotating about in the net and searching for whom they will stylishly defraud your belongings" A. Moron
"Please pray harder for God to guide and protect us during our travelling because flight airplane i observe is a very big risky" Abdul Karibu
"WE DOESN'T LIKE HOW DISOBIDIENT YOU ARE!" Coco Law Chambers
"BE INFORMED THAT YOU WILL INCUR DUMMERAGE AFTER 9 DAYS FROM TODAY" Burkina Faso Air Secure Air Service.\ |
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sagat
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Posts: 106
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:07 pm |
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