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Worf
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love this letter:

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Dear, Michael Francis Corleone,

Good day, since the beginning of this transaction I trusted you so much and I believe you�re capable of dispatching my clients funds to any charity organization of your choice as requested by him.

I have so much confidence in you and I easily trust people, but you have hurt my feelings and you are a disappointment because I remember that I told you that you must up-date me all transaction that takes place between you and the bank but instead you failed me.

You traveled down to London without my approvalor getting me informed or call me on phone even when you have my personal number with you, which means you do not have any regards for me.

That was exactly what you did when we started this transaction, You gave me a password to call you on phone after which I called you and it went through into the voice mail machine and you claim that your secretary could not understand me clearly and you gave me another password which you named FISH, again and again I tried to reach you on phone but I pass through the same problem,

However, I manage to check through the passport photograph which you sent me and I discover that it is a pure blank passport and now you went ahead to London to claim the funds simply because you are the sole-Beneficiary.

May be you think you are smart.

Let me be sincere with you, this is a serious business and we are talking about huge sum here and with my age and reputation I believe am too much for you to be fool around.

I spent good six years in North Carolina at the University of North Carolina Wilmington 601 South College Road Wilmington, NC 28403-3297. Telephone: +1 (910) 962 3270.

I obtained a PhD degree in International study and human relation and with my personal qualifications am fifty five years old by age and that was the reason why I decided to send you my international passport with my Certificate of Call to bar for you to have an ideal of whom you are dealing with.

With all my academic qualification I will be the very last person to indulge in any form of unserious transaction. I discover that you have wasted my time and money so far and you did not give me any respect,

If not I wonder why you have refused to up-date me regarding to this transaction and that is the most reason why I have decided to order the bank to stop all communication with you.

The bank has sent me all transaction and discussion with you so far even the day you arrive London according to you by 6;30 Am , all details were sent to me but I wish to inform you that I cannot do business with you anymore due to your insincerity and defamation.

I therefore advised that you write me a declination letter or letter of withdrawal to enable me present it to the London High Court of Justice for Nullification of documents with you and also to present it for the bank as I will ask my client (Mr. Ahmed Hassan) to search for another sole-Beneficiary.

I must commend you for all your effort and courage so far but I still need to correct you on the fact that you lack manner of approach.

To be very sincere with you, I think you lack manner of approach, I need to know your academic qualification because you lack manner of approach and you don't talk like a learned person, I was told that you said your funds transfer officer could not speak english tell me is that a commendation, and your funds transfer officer is a british citizen can you imagine that.

I have every reason to withdraw your application as the real and sole-Beneficiary to the funds of Mr. Ahmed Hassan except otherwise I have any personal opinion.

I await your undertaking or letter of withdrawal as the case may be, I have attach my Identity Card to this mail but it�s not blank as yours..

Best of Luck
Barr� MacLean Stone.


Any suggestions on a response? Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Fire him, tell the original person who mailed you to get a new barrister.

(Or pick up on his bad grammar, studied law in USA my ass)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, is "unserious" even a word? Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tell him you don't believe his piece of crap story about having a PhD. Insult his intelligence in international business, and demand to see proof of his degree.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

UncleNed wrote:
Fire him, tell the original person who mailed you to get a new barrister.

(Or pick up on his bad grammar, studied law in USA my ass)


Come to think of it, you should proof read his e-mail, pointing out every mistake. (But do not correct them, just tell him it's wrong). Then finish with "someone with a pHd in law from an American university should know basic grammar."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tell him there in no record of him ever attending that school. Unless he is giving you a false name......
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That was a long note. I think you really broke his heart this time. You better give him some flowers.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love how he put in the address and phone number of the school. That must make him honest! Confused

Hmm, maybe get someone to call him up and pretend to be the school admin , because you called to verify his credentials and they say they can't find his info on file and that he is misrepresenting the school and must cease & desist. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tell him that you called the school and the only MacLean Stone on file was asked to leave the school for "lying about his credentials on his application to the law program" and for overusing the phrase "lack manner of approach."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Smile

I wrote him a note listing some of his grammatical and spelling errors. I also threw in some bits insulting his intelligence.

I wrote the original guy, Ahmed, that his barrister was a shady character who claimed to have gone to this university, but when I called the university they had not heard of him.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Don't educate the lads Exclamation

Point out the things he did *right,* and tell him they're wrong. Make DEeducate him Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Like UncleNed said, I just listed some of them out. I didn't tell him how to fix them or what was wrong with them Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Whenever a lad starting complaining about all of my problems and faults, I give it right back to them. Something like "I'm not the problem, but you are because"... then I list out in very generic terms where they have been unable or unwilling to successfully complete a task or function. I also make up a few just for fun. I demand an apology and refuse to communicate any further until I get one. It usually works. If not, a well timed ASEM showing you have successfully sent money to another lad gets their attention (e.g., fake MTCN, unreadable Money Gram receipt). Tell him you checked out his University program and it is the lowest rated one in the US; therefore, you are not impressed and consider it worthless.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

mmmm, a Ph.D. and a lawyer Laughing That's about 10 years of graduate education. Just to screw with him, you can ask him for his cv. That should waste some of his time while he scours the net to find one, and then has to change the whole thing to go along with his story Twisted Evil

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Also, no need to slap back right away, it won't hurt your lad too much now. I prefer a slow and steady approach --- waste lots of time, get him off script, maybe get a form or two filled out, have trouble with a transfer or two to him. Get some of his banking info to have it killed.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
you lack manner of approach.


Did you get that? He said it a few times. You lack manner of approach!

From me, can you ask him what that even means? Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Mugatu wrote:
Quote:
you lack manner of approach.


Did you get that? He said it a few times. You lack manner of approach!

From me, can you ask him what that even means? Confused


Okay, I'm not sure if he'll respond because he sounds mighty pissed off Laughing.

I like the idea of sending him a blue mountain apology card though Laughing .

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Couple of points:

1. He didn't claim to have a Ph.D in Law, he said it was in International study. Incidentally, a doctorate of law is a LLD.

2. I like the firing the barrister modality. Or simply, just say you're tired of dealing with the lawyer. Just go back to the original character and chew the lawyer out to them, pretty straight forward. If you want to bait the lawyer, however, ask for evidence of all his degrees. If he produces anything say you called the University of North Carolina and posed as a potential employer and they confirmed that no such person ever went to their school, you also faxed the documents and were told they were fake.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Worf,
Depending on your character's place in life, I would try to get him to educate your character. He spent a lot of time trying to convice you of his "credentials", so let him keep impressing you with them.

Maybe the good doctor could influence your character to go to graduate school (though I would call it College to him because, well college is more like High School in the USA).

Let him keep impressing you with his profunditity.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Red wrote:
Couple of points:

1. He didn't claim to have a Ph.D in Law, he said it was in International study. Incidentally, a doctorate of law is a LLD.


Can you be a doctor of law?! I didn't know that... there's something to strive for...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ You certainly can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Laws

If you would like to apply for a position to study for your doctorate I have a wonderful university that would be willing to help you out Wink you just have to fill out a few application forms first Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think you need to ask him for a) a copy of his dissertation (because that's what you do to get a PhD. and b) a copy of his curriculum vitae. I would LOVE to see him get a copy of a dissertation in international relations to provide to you.

I like the idea of going back to the "original" scammer and complaining about the attorney. My way is to express deep concern that this lawyer may not have the scammer's best interest at heart, you suspect the lawyer is a criminal and not a real lawyer at all, because he could not provide proof, etc.

The law degree in the US by the way is the "Juris Doctor" the JD decree usually takes 3 years. The PhD at least five - unless you drank too much beer in graduate school - and then it takes 8.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Vavin wrote:
I like the idea of going back to the "original" scammer and complaining about the attorney. My way is to express deep concern that this lawyer may not have the scammer's best interest at heart, you suspect the lawyer is a criminal and not a real lawyer at all, because he could not provide proof, etc.


It worked too Laughing. I got this from the original lad this morning:

Quote:

Subject: Thank You!!!

Dear Michael Corleone,
Thank you, I want you to give me a little time so that I can withdraw the entire document with Mr. Stone and get another Lawyer to carry on with this transaction since you cannot trust Mr. Stone.
I have also contacted the bank head of operation Mr. H1ll Walker about this transaction and he said he was not aware about your presence in London.
I therefore urge to be patience with me so that he can investigate what the delay is all about.
Once again I apologies on behalf of my Lawyer Mr. Stone and I will get back to you soon.

Thank You For all your effort.
God Bless you.
Mr. Ahm3d Hassan.


Wow Laughing.

Update: We are back on track. Ahmed now has told the head of the "bank" to deal with me Smile.

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