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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^
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invented the word cunningulus


Actually I think you just invented that word.

Or were you thinking of cunnilingus? Laughing

Edit: You could probably blame the pub... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
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Or were you thinking of cunnilingus?


So that's where I've being going wrong! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here we go Laughing
It seems to me that there is some kind of misunderstanding here and there is some crossing over of language and culture issues,,

@Zorro,
If you are saying that, English is an international language and therefore anyone wanting to communicate outside their own countries with foreign nationals should learn English to a communication level, then I have to fully agree with you Wink

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Oh damm, this is where the cultural issue clashes with the language issue, sadly in some countries around the world it is true that someone having no English language is thought of as being less educated, and although this is of course NOT TRUE, it is in some cultures thought of as being the case.

Language itself has no class, creed or colour distinction, only people do but as a tool, language in the most valuable tool a person can have and it just happens that English is the most global of those tools.

Now before anyone wants a pop at me I should tell you that the above is based on my opinion and training too, I am an international English language teacher and have been since 1992. I hold 2 international diplomas for language teaching and international teacher training and I have also worked in many countries around the world so I guess thats my experience covered too.

one final thought,,, language and culture are closely related but we must always remember one is a tool and the other is a way of life..

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tommo Shanter wrote:
... Not to mention the 'F' word.


Do you mean the Latin 'F' word that is spelled with 'C,' not 'F'? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@kd

Second letter 'e' Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No,

second letter "o."
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Third letter l ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Zorro wrote:
Persephone, it is not necessary to write/speak the King's English



Blimey! You turn your back for 5 minutes and Charles has ascended to the throne. And there was nothing in the news about this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Gnasher wrote:
For example, how is your French, German, Russian, Spanish, various West African dialects and languages, Portuguese, Chinese, Dutch, Greek, Italian, etc.

Edit: Oh Lordy - "grammer" - Nuff said Laughing

You left out Martian Gnasher - u r 4givin Laughing

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Wow! I go to the pub for a couple of hours and all hell breaks loose.

Bring back Latin that's what I say. Any civilisation (without a 'z' Very Happy ) that invented the word cunningulus can't be all bad. Not to mention the 'F' word. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

~ratter,

Cunnilingus... that's a word I never could get my tongue around.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think we're generally quite forgiving of poor English grammar on here. At times I make typos, and though I try to notice them sometimes I am sure they slip through the gap. It does seem as though quite a few people posting on here probably have English as their 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) language, and therefore at times they'll say stuff that seems a bit odd or doesn't quite make sense to us. Yet there's always the opportunity to ask them to clarify.

Fortunately we're not into the whole txt spk, which is great as that does my head in, and also we don't go for the whole gratuitous spelling errors, except for when we're trying to hide names such as Usman Bello.

I think we should go easy on those who aren't that used to English, one of the best things about this forum is that it isn't dominated by any one part of the world. But at the same time have reasonable standards that everyone at least try to write their best. Which seems to happen.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

yastreb wrote:
[quote="ratterCunnilingus... that's a word I never could get my tongue around.


Well if you were a cunning linguist like we all aspire to be then you wouldn't have a problem Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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not able to discern the subtle differences between say a Manchester resident and a Londonite

Easy - a Londonite doesn't ask you to read the whole of Harry Potter..

and Tommo - no shame at putting the 'u' into cunnilng'u'lus Laughing

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And a real Londoner would never call themself a Londonite Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Josh wrote:
I think we're generally quite forgiving of poor English grammar on here. ...


Speak for yourself. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Improve your English:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/72212/improve_your_english/

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"Y'all goint tada fire"?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

kleindoofy wrote:
Josh wrote:
I think we're generally quite forgiving of poor English grammar on here. ...


Speak for yourself. Laughing Laughing


You mean we don't have to be? Great!

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What u talkin bout, short'n speak is cl, gtg bbs cya -Reminds you of Fred Flinstone Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

*Beats Reaper over the head with a large hammer*

More seriously, I am a real stickler for spelling and grammar (as hopefully my reasonable language on this board has indicated). Especially **apostraphes, which really annoy me when they're used when they shouldn't be, or not used when they should be. I guess that's what happens when you spend 5 years at university.


**Apostrophes

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apostrophe's, I love those little guy's, I use them so many time's,

"my sister's friend's investment's can't go past a few thousand's

Apostrophe's have been used in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and all the other 's

Why can't you learn to like the guy's?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Reaper they're not meant to be used for plurals. Twisted Evil

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I admit I'm a bit OCD about correct spelling and grammar too. I blame it on my education back in the days when these things were considered to be important Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It's quite nice to actually see apostraphes (although not when Reaper uses them!) in a forum on the internet. I spent quite a few years in chat rooms back when I was in my late teens, and probably didn't see an apostraphe for a few years as a result.

It is good we have some standards here.

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I is rate gud at english an stuff. its rate impotent were i cum frm.

(ie the gutter...)

When I lived in France, I was amazed at how many French could speak English beautifully, yet I was a guest in their country but crap at their language. I used to feel so ignorant. I did try to learn the language, but the French were far happier learning English from me.
I guess I'm just a lazy asshole, which to be fair, is the same for most Englishmen.

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