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putersteve
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 26
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:33 am |
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bill2 wrote: |
putersteve
Each his own and if you think that that is fun, it's your conscience. |
LOL I don't necessarily think it's FUN, just that I don't find it ethically appalling, given the circumstances.
also, if they were to force someone to get circumcised in their place like you say, then this whole board can just go out the window. why require videos of people doing crazy stunts at the risk they may get hurt, etc.. what if someone contacted hiv by getting an "I *heart* gay sex with goats" tattoo? i think that they themselves ultimately determine what line they cross, not us. otherwise all scam baits would yield perfectly deliciously crazy results. |
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putersteve
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 26
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:39 am |
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Red wrote: |
God, don't remind me, I'm still embarrassed by that, stop making fun of it, it's not funny! |
LOL! sorry!
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It's never going to happen, but I don't think it is mutilation considering that where he comes from it is likely more people have it than don't. Just tell him all the sexual benefits, might help explain why he's so average in the sack. |
OF COURSE! they also circumcise women there too!! OUCH! with rusty glass and rocks and all sorts of stuff. DUH how could i forget? i must've repressed it after reading Possessing the Secret of Joy (Alice Walker). It's really a good (and disturbing) read. |
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Alcathiax
Master Baiter
Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Posts: 189
Location: Orange County, California
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:49 am |
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I am not sure why this thread even exists as ethical considerations related to asking the scammer to do certain skin modifications (no matter how repugnant or grisly it may be) should be a no-brainer:
It is open season on scammers and we baiters can use tactics both fair and unfair to achieve our main goals.
Just remember this: "if mugu guymen dey chop dolla, dey also chop their cork too oooooo!" |
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drew.p.coque
419Eater is my life
Joined: 04 May 2005
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:20 am |
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chop his dollar.........or something else ! |
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Jervis Tetch
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 669
Location: Cape HATteras
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:25 am |
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@valachus [OP]
Only one way to deal with inch-worms--stomp the crap outta them. |
_________________ What a FUCK, for doing this i will make sure by tomorrow i will be in Washington and send the FBI to pick you up where ever you are by all means just believe i must do this and use it as a prove that i am who i am. I give you just 1 hour to take my passport out from that page or eles when i get to Washington there will be no forgiveness just take my word. I will send all boxes and documents covering the boxes in your name to Washington and you will be asked so many question and if possible you will go to Jail with my power i PROMISE I MUST DO IT.
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valachus
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 44
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:28 am |
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Guys, thanks for your opinions, I appreciate all of them, I think I'll try to convince him to get the job done and see what happens. Fingers crossed |
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Mind Freak
419Eater is my life
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 261
Location: Pangaea
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:38 am |
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@Alcathiax
Well said. |
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Jervis Tetch
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 669
Location: Cape HATteras
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:06 am |
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valachus--
Itchy & Scratchy did it best in "A Bris Before Dying".
Ep. EABF01 Dec 7, 2003 on The Simpsons.
cheerz--Jervis Tetch |
_________________ What a FUCK, for doing this i will make sure by tomorrow i will be in Washington and send the FBI to pick you up where ever you are by all means just believe i must do this and use it as a prove that i am who i am. I give you just 1 hour to take my passport out from that page or eles when i get to Washington there will be no forgiveness just take my word. I will send all boxes and documents covering the boxes in your name to Washington and you will be asked so many question and if possible you will go to Jail with my power i PROMISE I MUST DO IT.
His Excellency Ambassador Dr. Kwame Bawuah-Edusei |
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Breddan Butter
Retired Moderator
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Posts: 4170
Location: Soligorsk, Belarus
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:34 am |
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OK folks, this topic is controversial enough.
So, stay on topic.
The previous few numpty posts have been deleted.
There's a post-whore thread in General if you need it. |
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Prof. Daff E. Duck
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:03 am |
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You guys have never been to africa have you... everyone is cut as a right of passage. |
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Tsnerd
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 41
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:39 am |
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Oh? |
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Nurse Nasty
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: Australia, where a dingo stole my eski
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:57 am |
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I'd say go for a funny sign or dress-ups. That's my favourite trophies. Scambaiting isn't a competition on who can out-do the most current extreme trophies. Well not to me anyway. Humiliating your lad, then sharing it with millions of people on-line is the sweetest justice.
Prof. Daff E. Duck wrote: |
You guys have never been to africa have you... everyone is cut as a right of passage. |
Correction on the generalisation comment, but not all peoples and/or tribes perform ritual self-mutilation as a rite of passage. So having to visit Africa to know this is irrelevant.
Has it really been 6 weeks since our last ethical discussion? |
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QXT
Master Baiter
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 144
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:56 pm |
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Too extreme for me.
Also, like (!) doesn't West Africa have alot of Muslims, cos (!) they're circumsized too? |
_________________ Hurricanes, dead fish and your potential new tattoo have a lot in common. Think about it.
"you punk ass foolish son of a bastard prostitute's mother, born to a villain of a robber and grand parents of the liliput lineage." |
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guineagirl
Master Baiter
Joined: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 187
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:04 pm |
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^^^
To clarify: Yes, there are many Muslims in the Sahel and semi-Sahel countries, but not a lot of scammers there. As far as the countries with the most scams, Nigeria tends to be Christian and animist with some Muslims in the north, Cote d'Ivoire, the same. The Ghanans and Togolese I know are Christian, but I suppose they have Muslim populations too.
Muslim boys tend to be circumcised around age 12.
Edit: Non-Muslim West Africans tend to also be circumcised, but not all are. Risk of HIV infection tends to be slightly higher for non-circumcised men.
@ Putersteve: As for women, not all groups cut. Please don't call it circumcision as it's not at all the same thing--the equivalent of cutting off part or all of the penis, not just the foreskin.
My West African Franc (two cents) says this (Valachus' idea, not FGM)sounds like a baiter's fantasy to chuckle over, but personally, I think it would be better to focus on something more creative, more likely to happen, and less dodgy on the ethics side. |
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valachus
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 44
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:55 am |
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Well, the scammer is up for the adoption scheme, trouble is he sent me some pictures of a very young boy, much younger than he sounds on the phone (he sounds like one in his late 20s, and the boy looks to me under 20):
I definitely don't want to instigate or contribute to the scammer paying some lousy bucks to a poor youngster in order to have him carve himself tattoos or worse.
Has anyone seen these photos before?
EDIT:
oh and here's his "sister":
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_________________ Attorney 5t3v3n 5unny @ Law:
"As I was talking to you on phone this morning, I ran out of credit."
"The file you just sent concerning western union protocols, it is a bushtit."
"What would you expect me to explain to the monogram if they happen to arrest my secretary?"
"traveling to Switzerland to Norway will take you only 1hrs 30munite to Switzerland if you decide to travel by train"
Ad@m Willi@m, diplomat: "You can not play with my intelligence. I am very sharp. Nobody can play with me." |
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Eight
Retired Moderator
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 8710
Location: UK
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:44 am |
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Breddan Butter wrote: |
OK folks, this topic is controversial enough.
So, stay on topic.
The previous few numpty posts have been deleted.
There's a post-whore thread in General if you need it. |
Ditto. |
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DementedAngel
419Eater is my life
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:14 pm |
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initial pics are usually just grabbed off net, scanned in from magazine, or passed around from lad to lad. |
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Doctor X
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:03 pm |
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^^^^^ and @valachus
Those look like "glamor shots" rather than simple photographs. Would want to confirm your Lad is "the Lad" before making him undergo any thing permanent.
If a Lad hires others to carve, scribble, or what have you, that is one thing. If he makes some kid get tattooed/circumcised or whatever that sort of pushes the ethics in another direction, methinks. It is also a hard trophy to display!
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_________________ וגם־אני נתתי להם חקים לא טובים ומשפטים לא יחיו בהם
ואטמא אותם במתנותם בהעביר כל־פטר רחם למען אשםם למען אשר ידעו אשר אני יהוה |
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QXT
Master Baiter
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 144
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:35 pm |
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Did I say something wrong?
Sorry |
_________________ Hurricanes, dead fish and your potential new tattoo have a lot in common. Think about it.
"you punk ass foolish son of a bastard prostitute's mother, born to a villain of a robber and grand parents of the liliput lineage." |
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The False Italian
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Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 3779
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:57 am |
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The pics of the guy seem to come from a local photostudio with those flashy wallpaper backgrounds and were put on a bad scanner. The "sister" pic surely comes from the net. |
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Josh
Elite Baiter
Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 1799
Location: Nu Zilund
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:06 am |
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The chances of those photos being real seems to be about the same as the chances of you seeing any of that Lotto money you won last week. |
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Ophelia Dikki
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 740
Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:08 am |
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Hi,
If he is to convert to Judaism then he needs to grow a beard and wear a scull cap. If you want him to be a hasidic jew then he will need to grow earlocks and wear a prayer shawl. You will also have to educate him about eating kosher as well.
I reckon it'd be a great trophy of a photo of a nigerian dressed as an orthodox jew. |
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Mind Freak
419Eater is my life
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 261
Location: Pangaea
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:23 am |
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@Ophelia Dikki
HIGHLY unlikely |
_________________ Welcome to the Outerlimits of the Twilight Zone mugu Oga; it's all in your head and so am I!
Whether you are Moslem, Jewish, Christian, or any of thousands of other beliefs, or simply a Being without any religious standing, the Laws of Morality and the Scriptural Laws only applies when you are dealing with people that live by those laws! http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32877
In the spirit of [oss] Col. Hogan's credo, "You'll assist fellow victims, cooperate with all friendly forces, and use every means to harass and injure the enemy's operations." [the cia didn't tell me to say that and hls didn't either; guess who did] |
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putersteve
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 26
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:40 am |
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Doctor X
** ACCOUNT CLOSED **
Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 766
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:54 am |
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putersteve wrote: |
. . . what if someone contacted hiv by getting an "I *heart* gay sex with goats" tattoo? i think that they themselves ultimately determine what line they cross, not us. otherwise all scam baits would yield perfectly deliciously crazy results. |
Indeed.
If they did not scam, they would not fall prey to a baiter.
--J.D. |
_________________ וגם־אני נתתי להם חקים לא טובים ומשפטים לא יחיו בהם
ואטמא אותם במתנותם בהעביר כל־פטר רחם למען אשםם למען אשר ידעו אשר אני יהוה |
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