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 Circumcision - ethical and legal considerations?

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valachus
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've been baiting one of me lads - barr 5unny - for a while from a few choice of characters, and one of them is an old Jewish lady, a widow living in the Norad House Complex for the Elderly in Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado.

Now, the thing is: she is to undergo heart surgery soon, she's single and she might not make it - so she's thinking to adopt the poor orphans or even the barrister himself. But obviously they would have to convert to Judaism, which means the adoptee would have to be circumcised.

What say you about this idea - is it too extreme?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Not too extreme. Wink
Have him cut. Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.medicinenet.com/circumcision_the_surgical_procedure/article.htm

As long as it is performed properly it is safe and many argue it is a healthier option.

I would say not too extreme, especially considering there are actual benefits to it, unlike a tattoo. But I'll be VERY surprised if it happens Very Happy . That said, it would be amazing if you could pull it off (no pun intended).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Surely, to be a true Jew, he should just cut the whole thing off?

I'd have no problem if your lad got circumsised. That'd be an excellent trophy, and serves him right for being so damn greedy.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I dread to think what physical proof you are going to ask for..... Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I guess the only question is ...

Will a little old lady about to undergo heart surgery really want to see the proof. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I mean, ask yourself if he would question having a person have the same thing done if it would get him the victim's last dollar.

Cut.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No. Not too extreme. Just right IMHO.

You'd need proof of course - before, during and after photographs maybe?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You'd first have to find a lad that isn't already circumcised. Given the pictures of lad penis (TM) here on Eater that might be the tricky part of your challenge. But I'll say what I always answer to "trophy announcement threads" (TAT)...try it out and report back. Ask a mod if you're unsure about posting details.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Don wrote:
try it out and report back


That's what she'll tell the lad! Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Red wrote:
I'll be VERY surprised if it happens Very Happy


In the meanwhile I've made friends with the "search" button so I've found out that the idea is not new, but it has never succeeded, so far.

[channelling Toyama Koichi ]

So if I pull it off, you'd be amazed. I'd be amazed too.

I'll bring it to him gently - you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. And he's pretty desperate for money, that I'm pretty sure of.

XPS1710 wrote:
Will a little old lady about to undergo heart surgery really want to see the proof. Shocked


She's a tough as nails granny Smile

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If he chickens out I'll make sure he gets the worst kind of slap he ever got from an old woman.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ yeah... i wouldn't spring that trap for a while! Can you imagine the horror on his face when he realises what needs to be done. Of course, your husband (who no doubt died) did it for you when you got married, so it shouldn't be any different should it? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Try this link to find out what this involves ---NSFW

http://www.aafp.org/afp/990315ap/1514.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Btw, this is in PSD's siggy line:

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Usm4n Umaru wrote: "Sir, you ask me of being circumcised which i told you i have already done but need be for me to do it again,i will gladly do that."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder when some baiter is going to start the Eunuch Church of Many Dollars.... Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ewwww.
When someone said "trophy" my first thought was of a detatched fore-skin being sent by parcel post. puke

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Depending on where your lad is from he may well already be circumcised. It's not uncommon in many African cultures, although it's often performed in early adolescence as part of a boy's rite of passage into manhood. Either way, demand photographic evidence Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Slightlyoutofit wrote:
Ewwww.
When someone said "trophy" my first thought was of a detatched fore-skin being sent by parcel post. puke


Thanks! I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it! puke Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Simba wrote:
I dread to think what physical proof you are going to ask for..... Shocked
Shocked
LMFAO I was just thinking the same thing!


awaiting a small package in the mail? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

All of you people who claim you know what proper circumcision means!! [!--Ed.]

You are wrong. ALL wrong!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Before and after pics will be needed so there is actual proof that it's been done.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

WITH a tattoo.

It is in Leviticus . . . or something.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The (small) health benefits from being cut would be negated by having it done in a dirty shack in Lagos I think. Shocked

Have him do something jewish to his lad-dong. Tattoo the Star of David or something.

EDIT: and by that i'm not saying that getting him cut would be wrong, but if he's already cut another ritual should be found that would satisfy this old womans lust for genital mutilation.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A nice Star of David on his Scrotum might be more conducive to retaining a functional penis, but what you gonna do ? Try for the tip, if that wont fly, go for the scrotum Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I know your lad wont' check but as far as I know (I'm not Jewish) tattoos are strictly forbidden at least among more orthodox/conservative Jews. But I guess if he does get something permanent etched into his skin then you have ample slapping opportunities after the rabbi tells you that the tatt has to go.

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