Could this be a victim's email?

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:55 am

Here's the latest email from my (albeit lazy) . He's referring to me calling him , if you're wondering Razz

Anyway, I'm not sure if this guy he told me to email is a victim or not. I have emailed the guy, but (since I don't know if the possible victim's account is just the lad) I kept it short and sweet.

Read below:

Quote:

Mr ,
With my past experiense with you, am been weary now who and how I go about the final lap of transfering this funds into the States with.I have a Mr Mack Jordan from Boston now corresponding with and he has been of a little help finacially in getting this funds released.
I have known Mr Jordan not up to two weeks now and he believe me more than you do,not minding that I have been corresponding with you for more than a month now.so tell me do you want me to betray him? what guarantee do I have that you will not be up to your same old self?
You can contact mr jordan on his email address [email protected] and ask him if what I am saying is true.
I have know you for some time now,if not for your lack of trust and vision this thing would have been long concluded,but I can give you a second chance on the condition that you do not play any more game with me.and that you will pay Mr jordan the sum of $2,000 that he sent me inorder to get the documents i asked you to assist me earlier on.
With this I will know that you do believe me and trust me and i can equally trust you like am beginnig to trust Mr Jordan.
Have a nice day.

and my message to "Mack"

Quote:

Hello Mr. Jordan,

Agado Jack told me to contact you regarding the money he is sending you. Please tell me if what he has been saying is true.

Thanks,

Harry B.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:16 am

Hmm... the ("vic's") Email domain makes me wonder a bit...

I think your approach is prudent... when you get a reply, trace the IP... see where it leads you

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:39 am

"mack jordan"?

Sounds like you've got one of the lad's other modalities there.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:41 am

Hmmm mack jordan from mail.com sounds like a lad.

Might want to xxxx out the email address just in case.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 41

Non-lads use mail.com.

With that said, it is most likely a variant of 'contact the lawyer', and is either the lad or someone else working with the lad.

The IP will most likely tell you.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:51 am

Sounds like the lad is bringing in a new character to convince you that he is real. Mail.com doesn't strip the sender's IP, so check it out if Mr. Jordan gets back to you. It might be a vic (if your lad is completely whacked), but I seriously doubt it.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:55 am

Quote:

It might be a vic (if your lad is completely whacked)

I like to think of all my lads as completed 'whacked'. It makes the game so much more fun in my head! Razz

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:13 am

^^^
They don't start out that way, Red. Completely whacked is usually a post-bait phenomenon. Wink

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:17 am

^^^ no, i know, but as i said, i like to think they're completely whacked Very Happy

in my head every lad is charles soludo on acid Laughing

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 82

Charles Soludo is a rare genius, so iam told, he removed arabic signs from the Naira, and not many people were killed.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:42 am

Hi Onyenekwu^--

I like your style. And I know style--I own a multi-conglomerate bong and hat emporium, we welcome men of your vision, business acumen, and insight to make cash along with us.

Please send me details as to how we can incorporate and further feather our nests!!

You can PM me if you wish to privately discuss matters of business.

Sincerely, Mr Jervis Tetch

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:54 am

Sorry if this is a thread hijack, but, a lot of newer people don't seem to know who the real Charles Soludo is (I know you know Jervis). If anyone is wondering, here's a BIO

Unfortunately for the real Prof. Soludo, his name has become synonymous with 419 scams.

onyenekwu knows what he's talking about. (Welcome, by the way.)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:18 pm

Hahaha....so ANYway Wink

Here's the email I got bank from "Mark Jordan"

Quote:

howady,

who are you and how did you come to know mr.agado jack?

I'll sound stupid for saying this, but I'm not sure which IP to trace..here's the headers:

Quote:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.78.159.18 with SMTP id h18cs299080hue;
Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.114.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr3314426wai.1183195668435;
Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m28si20760350poh.2007.06.30.02.27.47;
Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 205.158.62.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of [email protected])
Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.8.90])
by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 570A41800120
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:22:29 +0000 (GMT)
X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.81)
by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 30 Jun 2007 09:22:29 -0000
Received: by ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001)
id 160CC1F50B1; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:22:29 +0000 (GMT)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1183195349313763"
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: "mark jordan" <[email protected]>
To: "Harry Balzack" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:22:29 -0500
Subject: Re:
Received: from [195.93.102.4] by ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com with http for
[email protected]; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:22:29 -0500
X-Originating-Ip: 195.93.102.4
X-Originating-Server: ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

If I'm tracing the correct one, it resolves to Hong Kong...hmmm Razz

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:43 pm

^^ the IP traces to France (using http://www.ipligence.com/mailtrace/):

Code:

Step IP address    Continent Country City
1 205.158.62.67 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES FREMONT, CA
2 195.93.102.4 EUROPE    FRANCE    PARIS
3 195.93.102.4 EUROPE    FRANCE    PARIS

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:00 pm

Ok, I just got this back after sending him this:

Quote:

Well, I was originally going to help with the 'transaction' of the millions of dollars, but he didn't trust me.

He told me to contact you asking if in fact you did send him $2000 in 'processing fees'.

Regards,

Harry B.

His assholey reply:

Quote:

do you have a problem with that buddy? i mean my sending him money.!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a mugu to me, how do you think I should reply? Cool

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:12 pm

How about:

A. I am not your buddy
B. The only problem I have is dealing with assholes like you... I asked you a question as XXX asked me to, so don't get your knickers in a twist getting all excited like the little boi that you are.
C. Thank you for the information

Cool

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:19 am

luckey,
thanks for the link. I had never looked up the real Prof. I guess I should have. This part of the bio really struck me:

CBN website wrote:

Academic Publications
Professor Soludo has over 76 academic and professional publications, including ten books and publications in top-class economic journals. Some of the books he authored or co-authored on African Economic Development are bestsellers in the United States and are read in many Universities across the globe.

It makes the off script Prof C. S. communications that much more... um ridiculious... Laughing

I would be honored to meet the real Prof, as I admire academic attainment. Cool

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:48 am

H4rry B4lzack wrote:

Sounds like a mugu to me, how do you think I should reply? Cool

Still worth fishing a little more. You could administer a mild slap for the buddy comment and tone of the reply, then explain that you were only looking for help to confirm it was a true deal.

He doesn't sound very French.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:39 pm

Yeah, agreed. I'm not going to mention anything about France, but a slap shall be administered Smile

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