Are Lads wisening up?

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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 7

I got two new letters today, curious as to where they were from as they claimed China I decided to check if the IP would trace back to the great firewall of China.

Rather both emails used anonymous email forwarding proxies... I feel cheated... have other people seen this type of development? B

tw- their English was also impeccable.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:04 pm

They never wise up! As for the impeccable English - it is a script. As soon as they are off-script, the English will deteriorate.

Bruin

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

Many lads' emails come from satellite forwarders -- this is nothing new. It doesn't really much matter unless you need to know where the lad is sitting. The first email from a lad will often have impeccable or at least very professional-sounding english -- they are script emails written by more educated lads and/or are improved the more they are used and when real victims point out the laughable problems with the originals (a subtle reminder to never slap a lad for real mistakes, only imagined).

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:07 pm

I have had some that start out with gmail, then send me to their "barrister" who is using yahoo. So sometimes it is just the initial mail that is ip hidden.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:37 pm

The word "Wise" doesn't exist in the Lad's dictionary. Laughing

The closest term that would match that is Baited.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:01 pm

In my experience there are some lads out there who are native English speakers, reasonably intelligent and fairly well educated. BUT this is a minority, you might have one of those but the probability is something like 99.9% that he's just a common type lad and he's only sending you his standard script.

Ask him something unusual and then you see a sudden decline in his writing abilities.

There are of course some who have an IQ only slightly above that of a turnip, these can be fun but serious baiting is just plain impossible with them.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:33 pm

I too have seen a lot of mails from China, which I thought was strange for a west African scam letter. But I just figured it was like a gmail thing where the exact location couldn't be pinpointed.

I've also had a few lads accuse me of baiting them prematurely, but I doubt that's a sign of getting smarter. I agree with Anti-419 on that one.

Although I have seen evidence of some well-educated lads, and I've seen a few whose English improved as soon as I got them off-topic and talking about something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:14 pm

I don't know if I would use the word wise, but they definately seem to be getting far more cautious about being baited.

As I have mentioned in another thread recently, getting a mugu off script is proving to be one helluva a task lately, they certainly seem to be far more aware of baiters and readily drop communication.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:00 pm

Nigerian emails routing thru China -- could that be due to that new communications sattillite China put up for them?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:14 pm

Some lads are "wiser" than others simply because they've been baited a few times and obviously they learn from experience. But you can't really tell a thing from the initial emal. You'll have to make a few replies before you find out if your lad has already been somebody's pet.

Chances are that they don't even know that they're routing through China.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:15 am

Such is their stupidity that this one sent me this:

Quote:

...therefore i came across your item and am highly
interested in Purchasing the {NAME }which you offer for sale.

That is how they see their pre-made script, all they do is fill in between the two { } whatever they need to, for example here it was an item I had for sale, but in all the e-mails he sent me, he never deleted the { } although he did fill in all the others, he kind of forgot to do this one...

Yes, they are very stupid..........not all......... but most...Why?.....
No education + poverty = mugu scammer

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:57 am

@ all: Last I heard the last lad meeting was not a success (again). Laughing

None of our pets showed up to share trade secrets, plus with the huge number of lads out there we're not making enough of an impact to where they're actively learning about us. I'm sure a few do know about us but oh well... they make for a more challenging bait... maybe a trophy of sorts for the more advanced baiter willing to take time with a good bait.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:04 am

Quote:

The word "Wise" doesn't exist in the Lad's dictionary

Actually neither does "wisening". But "wising" does.

@Morgul
Please don't don't start a new question in someone else's topic. It causes confusion in the replies and effectively hijacks the thread.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:16 pm

Search "wising" in this forum. I believe the question has been asked before. And the answer is always, "nah...not really." Smile

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:40 pm

I have not encountered a wise mugu until now. Some are more convincing than other and more dangerous this way. Few have medium technical knowledge.
But none have ever been wise.

Wise and mugu ... what a contradiction.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 44

~full auto,

There's no really a need for them to double-bait; they need only to check that the mugu is for real or if he/she is bul**itting them.
I got today an email from a different character and a different format, to a fresh address of mine that only my lad knew about.
So heads up when beginning a new bait, it may be that you're giving positive feedback to a lad's bul**it detector.

419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

@ Simba: I hear you, about the getting off script. I've returned to baiting after a hiatus of several months and since I started again it's much tougher to get them off script. Sometimes I'm banging my head against the wall over it!

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:36 pm

Andronicus then do something they couldn't plan. If the bank is in England, I always jump on a plane right away, leaving before they can write me back Wink

PVManchester Thumbs up

and her telephone are the finishing touch to a webcam preformance. And I always meet new friends there(top line of sig)
Better plan it well, last time I tried RL screwed things up time wise and my friend was lost.
Good Luck

419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

Bill2, thank you for the suggestions!