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VicksPitbull
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Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 7
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:03 pm |
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I got two new letters today, curious as to where they were from as they claimed China I decided to check if the IP would trace back to the great firewall of China.
Rather both emails used anonymous email forwarding proxies... I feel cheated... have other people seen this type of development? B
tw- their English was also impeccable. |
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BRUIN
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 11329
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:04 pm |
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They never wise up! As for the impeccable English - it is a script. As soon as they are off-script, the English will deteriorate.
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JMRazor
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 7103
Location: Yes
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:06 pm |
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Many lads' emails come from satellite forwarders -- this is nothing new. It doesn't really much matter unless you need to know where the lad is sitting. The first email from a lad will often have impeccable or at least very professional-sounding english -- they are script emails written by more educated lads and/or are improved the more they are used and when real victims point out the laughable problems with the originals (a subtle reminder to never slap a lad for real mistakes, only imagined). |
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TheGreatOok
Catbingo
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 2355
Location: Lost in L-Space
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:07 pm |
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I have had some that start out with gmail, then send me to their "barrister" who is using yahoo. So sometimes it is just the initial mail that is ip hidden. |
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Anti-419
Elite Baiter
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 1804
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:37 pm |
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The word "Wise" doesn't exist in the Lad's dictionary. The closest term that would match that is Baited. |
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CollateralDamage
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 175
Location: Beside the Fire - reading
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:01 pm |
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In my experience there are some lads out there who are native English speakers, reasonably intelligent and fairly well educated. BUT this is a minority, you might have one of those but the probability is something like 99.9% that he's just a common type lad and he's only sending you his standard script.
Ask him something unusual and then you see a sudden decline in his writing abilities.
There are of course some who have an IQ only slightly above that of a turnip, these can be fun but serious baiting is just plain impossible with them. |
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i dont have time for you u most be a basted from your mother and your father must be a big dog but all i will let u know is that may u go and die like a lizard as i don't want u to skeak with me any more if u reply this message that means your father and mother including all your family is a dog and goat.
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Obi-Wan Knievel
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Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 1486
Location: Bald Knob, NF
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:33 pm |
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I too have seen a lot of mails from China, which I thought was strange for a west African scam letter. But I just figured it was like a gmail thing where the exact location couldn't be pinpointed.
I've also had a few lads accuse me of baiting them prematurely, but I doubt that's a sign of getting smarter. I agree with Anti-419 on that one.
Although I have seen evidence of some well-educated lads, and I've seen a few whose English improved as soon as I got them off-topic and talking about something else. |
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Simba
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Nov 2006
Posts: 4093
Location: Bila Shaka
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:14 pm |
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I don't know if I would use the word wise, but they definately seem to be getting far more cautious about being baited.
As I have mentioned in another thread recently, getting a mugu off script is proving to be one helluva a task lately, they certainly seem to be far more aware of baiters and readily drop communication. |
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Race
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 70
Location: On an adventure with Dr Quest..
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:00 pm |
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Nigerian emails routing thru China -- could that be due to that new communications sattillite China put up for them? |
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Slightlyoutofit
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Feb 2007
Posts: 14310
Location: Foraging for Nuts.
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:14 pm |
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Some lads are "wiser" than others simply because they've been baited a few times and obviously they learn from experience. But you can't really tell a thing from the initial emal. You'll have to make a few replies before you find out if your lad has already been somebody's pet.
Chances are that they don't even know that they're routing through China. |
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Argentino
Master Baiter
Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 213
Location: Out looking for Mr M u g u
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:15 am |
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Such is their stupidity that this one sent me this:
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...therefore i came across your item and am highly
interested in Purchasing the {NAME }which you offer for sale. |
That is how they see their pre-made script, all they do is fill in between the two { } whatever they need to, for example here it was an item I had for sale, but in all the e-mails he sent me, he never deleted the { } although he did fill in all the others, he kind of forgot to do this one...
Yes, they are very stupid..........not all......... but most...Why?.....
No education + poverty = mugu scammer |
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full auto
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Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 555
Location: Lost in a digital age/provided by tor.
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:57 am |
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@ all: Last I heard the last lad meeting was not a success (again). None of our pets showed up to share trade secrets, plus with the huge number of lads out there we're not making enough of an impact to where they're actively learning about us. I'm sure a few do know about us but oh well... they make for a more challenging bait... maybe a trophy of sorts for the more advanced baiter willing to take time with a good bait. |
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DrWho
Baiting Guru
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 5486
Location: Where ever I go, there I am
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:04 am |
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The word "Wise" doesn't exist in the Lad's dictionary |
Actually neither does "wisening". But "wising" does.
@Morgul
Please don't don't start a new question in someone else's topic. It causes confusion in the replies and effectively hijacks the thread. |
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mr. mugu
Lazy Bum
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 1747
Location: Looking for goats in all the wrong places
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:16 pm |
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Search "wising" in this forum. I believe the question has been asked before. And the answer is always, "nah...not really." |
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Karl_Ranseier
419Eater is my life
Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 423
Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:40 pm |
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I have not encountered a wise mugu until now. Some are more convincing than other and more dangerous this way. Few have medium technical knowledge.
But none have ever been wise.
Wise and mugu ... what a contradiction. |
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valachus
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 44
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:43 pm |
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~full auto,
There's no really a need for them to double-bait; they need only to check that the mugu is for real or if he/she is bul**itting them.
I got today an email from a different character and a different format, to a fresh address of mine that only my lad knew about.
So heads up when beginning a new bait, it may be that you're giving positive feedback to a lad's bul**it detector. |
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"traveling to Switzerland to Norway will take you only 1hrs 30munite to Switzerland if you decide to travel by train"
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Canadon Alfa
419Eater is my life
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 293
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:54 pm |
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@ Simba: I hear you, about the getting off script. I've returned to baiting after a hiatus of several months and since I started again it's much tougher to get them off script. Sometimes I'm banging my head against the wall over it! |
_________________ "You will not end this life in a happy mode.." --Da Barrister
"I pray that the gorillas will not destroy the slip i.e. the customers copy." -- Div1ne Ok0ye
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Andronicus then do something they couldn't plan. If the bank is in England, I always jump on a plane right away, leaving before they can write me back PVManchester and her telephone are the finishing touch to a webcam preformance. And I always meet new friends there(top line of sig)
Better plan it well, last time I tried RL screwed things up time wise and my friend was lost.
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Canadon Alfa
419Eater is my life
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 293
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:11 pm |
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Bill2, thank you for the suggestions! |
_________________ "You will not end this life in a happy mode.." --Da Barrister
"I pray that the gorillas will not destroy the slip i.e. the customers copy." -- Div1ne Ok0ye
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