Vlads dont' seem to "stick"

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:46 am

Too right up_and_under, but I am finding that trophies are impossible until you get to the end game. Any requests are met with more script. My latest will be on her 7th email and no sign of even falling in love yet!

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:57 pm

Well, I finally have someone who is replying more or less on time, and on her fourth mail I get pictures I request, sort of at least. I asked for picture of her in a prom dress, and she sent me a picture of herself in a summer dress. And she actually responded to my questions, and made a remark about a mad dream I wrote up in the mail to her...And yes she is starting to like me, but not in love yet, I am " her favourite friend" at the moment.
I expect the love in the next mail ( I have had a bad bike accident Wink

) and the money two to three mails after that, all dependant if she can get me on a phone, which I am stalling, after she first suggested ICQ.
I'll keep you posted! Smile

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:10 pm

Has anyone works out a way to get them to the point earlier... my latest is on her 8th email and has only just got the the telling the relative of our emails part...

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:22 pm

I ruddy did it! Throw in my yac number and she is now way off script - kind of threw her. I just hope she goes to the end game now rather than "my grandmother is so pleased for us"... that goes on for at least another 2 emails!

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:25 pm

Script update... I have two now that have thown their script out of the window... short little email asking how I am feeling... this only means one thing. Work for me as I cannot cut and paste crap any more!

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:52 am

One vlad nata_ly_a goes for the money after three emails..I am hurt? what about love, or some good spanking? Twisted Evil

right, lets get to the forms... Razz

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:47 pm

Holy moly. I thought I handed it on a plate to one vlad. Told her I was sick... she broke from script... I said I wanted her here with me... she said was it really true... I said YES GET TO THE RUDDY POINT of all this... now back to script! She has now told her father of us. Christ, the deal is done. Lets talk WU and get this show on the road!

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:21 pm

Yep, some are really quick to the point, others take forever, that is what i am finding out now. One sounds so genuine, it is hard to believe that she'he is a vlad, but, one look at the IP says it all, Yoshkar Ola...and she is in moscow, yeah right... Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:36 pm

Not every vlad is going to be an automated response using TB!. Some are real women who don't follow the standard vlad tried and tested formula for scamming. I've had vlads that acted more like lads. They tend to be solo scammers who don't have the technical knowhow the gangs have.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:48 pm

Whoa, I thought they were only guys! So there are real women doing this as well? so trophies are more likely to come from them...
any way to tell a guy from a girl? ( in the emails of course, not IRL Laughing

)

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:26 pm

Yep, there are some real women doing this, or at least closely involved with the scammers. The best way to tell them apart from the ones who are just guys is to give them a phone number and ask them to call you. (Not your real one though! Register with K7 or get a redirect set up to a mobile.) Some will call relatively early in the bait; sometimes after only two or three e-mails.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:58 pm

Groups have women they pay to make calls, pose for photos and collect WU payments. Solo women are more likely to be small time scammers without the technical skills of the groups. They're also more likely to get caught as they aren't able to hide their real identity like the groups. they're also likely to get threatened or beaten up by the groups when they go to collect their WU payments. In the Ukraine they're more likely to be female then in Mari El, as pro daters are more prolific there. Working out who's who is a matter of studying the emails and headers rather than looking at the pictures or listening ot the voice on the phone.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:14 pm

I guess it depends what you're after. Just having a woman in the loop somewhere opens up the possibilities of phone chats and picture trophies. However, solo scammers are likely to be much less scripted and more suggestible than groups, which opens up possibilities for more creative baits.

As for pro-daters, well, I wouldn't go there but they're the sort who might actually turn up when you say you're flying over to meet them. I got a seriously pissed off e-mail from a Ukrainian that I stood up at the airport a few weeks back; I guess she must have forgotten that I'd never sent her a pic. Laughing

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 85

best way i find of getting them off script, Is to jum into your modality after the 1st mail.
none of this "i want to be with you" crap, cos its expected... bang straight out with.. Im a millionaire. Im in russia.. where can we meet?"
That will get them off script pretty sharpish!

Oooh... whos up for using THAT exact line!
I'd offer a prize but alas.. i cannot, as i am poor and the bank require $10,000 tax to unlock countless millions.....

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