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Not quite a Newb Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 41

You brought up race, I didn't.

If it is about punishment, why wouldn't you just take him to the police? You claim that it isn't about ethnicity, yet that is your very reason for taking him to the strip club frequented by racists, is it not?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:22 am

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this is about punishment

Who are you to decide what "punishment" is appropriate for AFF?

Are you a judge?

Or just a sore and, dare I say, angry vigilante?

There's a difference between someone baiting a lad into wasting his time and resources and someone exacting "punishment".

Lynch mob days are over mate.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:23 am

Wait what? Did I say anything bad about Oklahoma? We were going to take him there because thats where our lakehouse is. The majority of my family also lives there. I've got no problem with Oklahoma. If you were referring to the strip club thing, then I was referring to a place in Dallas. I talked about that being an alternative plan, if we decided that leaving Texas was a bad idea.

I dont intend to come to your forum and cause problems, I just wanted to present an idea that is quite a bit different from your normal 'baitings'.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18313

And you certainly have!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:28 am

@TSnerd,

If we decide that leaving him isnt a good idea, which it may not be, then another option we considered was just that, taking him to the police. Maybe they couldnt do anything to him at all, who knows. It would just be more hassle for him.

We're not looking for vigilante justice here, just an 'extended' bait, I guess. Sending him on a wild goose to a neighboring country is one thing, but we wanted to bring the guy here to us. Quite frankly, we've got the money to burn and time to kill, so we thought we'd have some fun with this. No harm will be done, no 'vigilante lynch mob' or whatever. Nobody is getting hurt. Thats a line we wont be crossing.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18313

Baiting is wasting their time and resources. . . what you're doing is called a meeting.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:31 am

@ Punisher - don't get the wrong idea here, i'm sure all will agree that you're very welcome to post your baits on here (as long as they are within the parameters of the forum guidelines).

The thing is, however, that most baiters (especially those who have been around a while and dealt with many lads) are rather skeptical that you can pull off such an ambitious plan.

All the people who have posted are offering you advice, they're not trying to cut you down, they're simply testing your plan and how well you have thought it through... which is what you yourself should be doing if you want to execute this with precision.

What you're proposing is bloody hard to pull off, and if you manage to, I for one will be very eager to see the result.

Good luck, stay safe.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:35 am

I understand. My buddies and I have collectively 'baited' several people before. Obviously we are not veteran scammer scammers, but we've had some experience playing this game. Whats funny too, is that not until recently had I ever even seen this website. It all started when I would keep getting these scam offers for cars I would try and sell on EBay. We decided to screw with them and it became a hobby.

I've been browsing here for less than a week and I've already learned a ton of new tricks. Smile

I'm eager to see how this works out. Any advice on whether or not this should be filmed or photographed? Again, we wont be doing anything illegal, but for some reason I'm a little nervous about filming it all.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:42 am

Well as long as you don't do anything illegal, by all means film it. If course, might be a little hard to explain why you're filming it, and will probably spook the lad.

But if you can pull it off, do so and post it on here.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:46 am

Yea thats what we were afraid of.....I dont know if we can document this while still being discrete. I'd rather not risk spooking him, but if we can find a way to possibly audio-record it, I'll do my best to do it.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18313

@Punisher, I'm not trying to burst your bubble, and this has already been said: I don't believe for a second that the lad is actually coming.
They are scammers, they lie for a living.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:54 am

I have many ideas about how to go about filming it without spooking him but I personally don't think that meeting a mugu (or their associates) is ever a good idea unless you are accompanied by a LEO. For this reason, I'd rather not discuss any ideas about how to do t.

Just remember who these people are and what they do to people who screw them:

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Murder
* 29-year old George Makronalli, a Greek man, was murdered in South Africa after responding to a 419 scam.
* Kjetil Moe, a Norwegian businessman, was reported missing and ultimately killed after a trade with Nigerian scammers in Johannesburg, South Africa (September 1999).
* One American was murdered in Nigeria in June 1995 after being lured by a 419 scam.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:57 am

Thats what we have been suspecting too, that he will not show up. It would be the most fitting behavior for someone like this. The only reason we took the chance anyway is because we had access to free airfare. Otherwise it wouldnt have been worth the trouble.

We initially figured he would turn down the airfare/lie/not show up/etc, but as things progressed, we started to think more and more that this guy was actually going to hop on the plane on our dime, and come to the states. I think this guy seriously assumes we are going to buy into his scheme, and hell, we paid for his trip over here to basically be wined and dined by my company, so who knows what he is thinking at this point.

If he doesnt show, I wont be too surprised, but he also knows the deal will be off. If he does show...well, let the games begin.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:06 am

@red,

I know what you mean. For one, I think it helps that we are on our turf rather than his. That sounds sort of gang bangerish doesnt it haha?

Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to sound all macho-tough guy here, but one of the guys is a former Dallas Police Officer, and all three of us have Concealed Handgun Licenses, and are more than adequately protected. Again, I'm not throwing the "I've got a gun" card out there for macho-man appeal, we've just made sure to cover our bases.

From what I've seen of this clown (pictures he has sent), he looks to be a kid in his mid 20's. We're not going to underestimate the situation at all, but we never would have gotten this idea together if we weren't fairly sure about our safety.

Here's what I'm thinking: (IF he shows up tomorrow)
-We meet at the airport, if the guy that shows isnt the guy I've been talking to, we walk away.
-If the guy tries to get us to deviate from the plan we discussed, we refuse and walk away.
-If there is anyone else with him, or appearing to be connected to him, we walk away.
-If he acts unstable or threatening in any way shape or form, we walk away.

Worst case: he has contacts here who somehow try and get involved, and he knows that if this occurs, the deal ends and we walk away.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:14 am

Why not post the pictures you have of him. I�m sure we all just love to see them.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18313

WOW. Look at all those ponies!!!! I sure wish someone would tell me what they stand for!!!

EDIT: I'm not crazy. There were ponies. I saw them. They're gone now. Help. I'm seeing pink ponies.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 7

ThePunisher wrote:

. . . One cited a college prank as an example, where some frat boys left a few guys in the middle of nowhere. Apparently the only thing illegal about it was the alcohol in their systems.

You should tell my college roommate's lawyer about that case as he had to settle for beau coup money when he drove a pledge to Arkansas and left him there (we were 3 states over). But on the plus side my roommate avoided jail time

btw- Hi, guys I'm new here and this sounds like the worst idea ever.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:17 am

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all three of us have Concealed Handgun Licenses, and are more than adequately protected

Definitely a wind up.

clink, clank... that sounds like a key chain... Very Happy

VicksPitbull wrote:

I'm new here and this sounds like the worst idea ever.

A newbie with unparalleled common sense, all hail!

Welcome to the Eater. Read all the stickies, sign up for a mentor, bait safe and whatever you do... don't do what this bloke is suggesting! Wink

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:21 am

@VicksPitbull,

Thats because most DA's (and cops as well) HATE dealing with frat boys and their stupid pranks. They basically ensure that they are raped by the longest johnson the law can muster.

And yes, I'll try and load some of the pics soon. Im on my laptop and they are at home on my desktop. Though I dont know if some of the stuff on his signs is considered appropriate for this site. Smile

I had a friends son suggest some very lewd/unusual terms that no African would know. It was an awkward conversation for sure

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:23 am

Let's see... Three rednecks carrying firearms in a car (or pick-up) with a 20ish scammer driving through the countryside. Sure... there's NO WAY anything could possibly go wrong. Make sure one of you geniuses don't cap him if he reaches for a pack of smokes.

ThePunisher wrote:

Who knows, as long as its one guy who doesnt try and manipulate the situation to his favor, it will be interesting.

Sorry I cant stick around for the fun, but I'm going to go kick Reprob8's ass (as long as he doesn't try to manipulate the situation to his favor). Razz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:30 am

Haha rednecks? I own a Dental Supply company and my partners-in-crime are a retired cop and the owner of a Lexus dealership. Far from rednecks, we're just a couple of city boys looking for a way to de-bored ourselves. Smile

If we're going to play the hasty generalizations game, then I guess I had better pack some Febreeze alongside the USP just in case this clown stinks up the LX.

That would be a funny sight, however...3 rednecks and an African dude crammed in the front of a single-cab pickup singing the YMCA and playing with guns.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:34 am

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I'm not crazy. There were ponies. I saw them. They're gone now. Help. I'm seeing pink ponies.

No I didn't see the 22 ponies in his sig line.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:40 am

Actually looks more like 52.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:57 am

Well I see you actually read some posts. Why not post the pictures of your lad.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:00 am

Re: pictures

Do you want the ones of him having sex with a goat? Or just the normal ones?

kidding... I should have them up by tomorrow.

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