Turning it around on Brandy Williams

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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 3

So, this girl starts talking to me about three weeks ago on Yahoo. She asked a general question about my profile. I was in a good mood, because normally I don't talk to scammers. After winnowing through her horribly grammatically incorrect English, she sent two fake pictures that I haven't seen before.

No requests for money for the first week. I'm told she misses me after the second conversation, and that she "luvs" me after the third. Two days later, I get two custom screen-printed t-shirts, that say "Hello. ****" (real name edited) on the front, and "I Luv You" on the back in calligraphy. Underneath the words on the back of the shirts is a mean-looking bulldog.

WHY would I wear that shirt? WHY would I want a woman to?

It gets better. After making sure I got the first package, she sent a larger box the next time. I open it up and find a PS2 Slim. Nice.

A week later, another package comes in the mail. I am greeted with a new PSP.

Yesterday, her mother in Nigeria (whom she's been tending to, since she has horrible kidney problems) took a turn for the worse, and needs a life-saving kidney transplant by THIS Friday. Brandy, fortunately, has $18,000 for the $23,000 operation from her friends back "home" in East Bend, NC. BUT, the mean, heartless doctors there need $20,000 at least to perform the operation, and kindly will finance the rest.

Brandy wants me to sell both the PSP and PS2 and Western Union the money to her. Obviously, I'm not going to. I've been having too much fun so far just telling people the story and showing them the message archive.

She's tried calling me several times with some internet relay call service, but I haven't ever spoken to her, and apparently the operator isn't, either, because she never says anything when she calls. That hasn't been for a few days, though.

Does anyone know anything about Brandy Williams ([email protected])? Should I be sitting here happy that I scammed a scammer, or concerned that she has my address?

Elite Baiter Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1269

If she's got your real address, I'd drop the bait, now. You can re-bait her from a safe addy, without giving her any of your real info.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 3

Well, I was smart enough to give her a fake name at least. I doubt it's a chick, anyway. I think I'm going to try talking as erotically as possible to see how "she" reacts.

Last night, I told her the cops showed up here and I had to go. I logged back on a couple hours later and told her it was a next-of-kin death notice, and that my father had just died from liver problems. Built a great, angry, tear-jerking, pain-filled story for her and furiously logged off. That's why I didn't sell the game systems today. It's also my out as to why I disappeared.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:52 pm

We hope that you used a safe drop area for the packages,
and that you "DID NOT" give your real home address .. Shocked

Elite Baiter Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1269

You don't need a reason to vanish - you can just do it. Stop *all* contact. Don't let me scare you away from baiting, but scammers have been known to kill victims...if they have no qualms about killing victims, what would they do to a baiter who thinks it fun to waste their time?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:03 am

NeoDraven wrote:

It gets better. After making sure I got the first package, she sent a larger box the next time. I open it up and find a PS2 Slim. Nice.
A week later, another package comes in the mail. I am greeted with a new PSP.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but chances are very good that the PS2 and PSP were purchased with stolen (phished) credit card details. When the card owner(s) see those charges, they will dispute them and the CC company will send a chargeback to the store.

BTW, the boxes were not sent by the scammer. If they weren't sent directly from the stores, they were sent by a mule who will happily point the police in your direction as soon as they catch up with him. Guess who the they will be coming after then?

You need to either return those electronics to the store(s) they came from, or turn them over to the police and tell them what happened.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 3

Wow. I was reading about people getting $50 and nice pictures of people. I thought I was just cashing in on a moron.

I was dumb enough to give my real address, but I am not worried in the slightest about physical retaliation. LET someone try to come here. Worst mistake they'd ever make.

I wonder about the items, though. With them sent to a fake name, even though it is the correct address, how can this person prove that I accepted them? No one had to sign for anything. I don't want to get authorities involved; I was just out to have fun. The gifts were a perk, in my book.

What should I be concerned about at the moment?

BTW, thanks to all that respond. I just discovered this fun new game, and didn't expect this result on my first attempt.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:24 am

Were the items shipped directly from the stores, or did they supposedly come from the "girl"?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:39 am

NeoD, I recommend you do some reading of stickies and Safe Baiting. I suggest you start with this http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24575

Welcome and bait safe (including receiving items from scammers). A mentor will also be helpful.

Just because you didn't "sign for" the shipment doesn't mean it can't be tracked to you and or your address.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:45 am

Chances are you will have some police knocking at your door very soon, You may save yourself a lot of hassle by doing so and I don't think a PSP is worth a criminal charge of accessory to theft

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:36 am

@NeoDraven

The moment you enter into a physical transaction with a scammer, be it cash or goods, then you become one of them too as far as the law is concerned, and that's true in any country, you have recieved stolen goods or goods purchased by fraudulent means.

Your first thought should be in respect of the authorities and not the mugu because no mugu is gonna turn up at your place but, the same cannot be said about the authorities.

What slayerfaith said about returning the goods or taking them to the police and explaining, is good advice but I personally would think twice about taking them to the police, the first question will be, "why did it take you so long to report it" ? how will you answer that question?
You can not say "well, I thought it would be ok to keep them as I got them from a bad guy anyway"

I have to agree with the other comments, you made a bad mistake and a bad move too in your judgement Confused

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:26 am

^^ What they said. Also, there's nothing to stop a pissed-off mugu giving the police an anonymous tip-off that Mr Fake Name at Real Address has knowlingly received stolen or fraudulently obtained goods, and a judge won't be too sympathetic either. Baiting is a very good cause but it's not worth a criminal record.

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