My first letter to a mugu and they barely read it!

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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 5

This is only my first ever reply from a mugu, but I'm already so excited... Razz

They really DON'T read the first catcher replies very close, do they?

I used to spend a good deal of my online message-board time on religious debates and such. But I need some new perspective, some new people to talk to... how about some 419 scammers? Wink

For my first bait or two, I'd like to try and mess with their heads a bit by sidetracking them into a big theological argument, saying no no no, I can't accept your money to help you with religious work, I work for a SECULAR charity...

I picked out a religious-toned charity sort of letter:

Quote:

Dearest One In Christ,

I am Mrs Gloria Peleaz A complete citizen of Philippines .
I was the Wife of Late Mr Emmanuel N.Peleaz of Philippines
who served as an archdeacon in the St.Micheal's archdeaconry
in Philippines for 9 years(nine years) before he died in
the year July 27 2003. We were married for 19 years without
a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for only
four days. Before his death, we were both living together
happilly with his relatives . but after his death life turn
miserable for me through my husband relatives. whom has
swear to see me dying at all cost.

Before my husband Death I inherited a total sum of
(8.5million United state dollars) from my late Husband when
he was in his Sick bed, This money which is concealed in a
metallic trunk box is deposited with a security and finance
company in Cote d' ivoire under a secret arrangement as a
family treasure. This means that the security company does
not know the content of this box that was shipped from the
Philippine to Cote d' ivoire under a diplomatic coverage.

Recently l Fell Sick and my Doctor told me that from all the
test conducted on my health, Without and Urgent and a
specialist From your Country I am not going to last long,
expecially, due to my Throat cancer and stroke. But what
disturbs me most now is stroke.

Having known my condition, I decided to Contact you and
Reveal to you in person Regarding my Heritage from my Late
husband after my late husband brothers has neglected me and
has well sit on my late husband properties and his bank
accounts.hence why i am seeking your to help me Secure the
release of this Fund from were it was deposited and utilize
this money the way I am going to instruct. and also help me
to your Country for best Medical Treatment.

I took this decision because I don't have any child that
will inherit this money and my husband relatives Have kept
me under dureces just to know the wereabout of this said
fund, after they have inherited all my late Husband
Properties because l could'nt bear a Child for their Late
brother. I don't want my husband's hard earned money WILL to
me to be misused or taken from me by my late husband wicked
brothers and use for their own selfish interest and in an
ungodly manner.

I don't need any telephone communication in this regard
because of my health, and because of the presence of my
husband's relatives around me sometimes. I don't want them
to know about this development.
As soon as I receive your reply in my next mail I shall give
you the contact of the Security and finance company in Ivory
coast and the Authorization Certificate which is the
Certificate of deposit that they gave me on the very day
when the box of money was deposited under their company to
enable you call them and give them your address for the
immediate shipment of the box to you as the original-
beneficiary of this fund.
I want you to always pray for me because God work in
misterious ways. My happiness is that if this fund is used
for the less previlage one.

Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for
another person individual for this same purpose. Please
assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein.
Hoping to hear from you soon .Indicate your intrest.

God bless you.
Mrs Gloria Peleaz

And replied:

Quote:

Dear Mrs. Peleaz,

My heart goes out to you for your dilemma, but my principles force me to admit that I am by no means a "Dearest One In Christ." I myself am one of the "ungodly" people you seem to be worried about. Surely you must be mailing this request to as many contacts as you can find to work this out as quick as possible, but I am still shocked that someone would give you my address! While I am CFO of a fund-raising organization, we only fund secular charities and services. We do not fund any organizations with ties to religious groups (which includes many private hospitals), or any religious activities. Quite the opposite; we often fund groups which actively campaign against the spread of religion and its influence on politics and public policies. I don't doubt that I would still be a better choice to safeguard these funds than your relatives, but in fairness, I should tell you that I'm probably not exactly the right fit for what you're looking for. Since I do not believe in any sort of gods, I can't pray for you, but I can tell you that I do wish you well and hope that you find the help you seek.

Sincerely,

Arnotte Timtamm
CFO
Australian Secular Services

And here's what I got this morning, subject: "you should try to know God and work for him"

Quote:

Dear Arnotte Timtamm

thanks for your mail ,i want you to understand that we are in a global world where information technology is been developed and modernisee evereyday and it was in one of my search for a reliable trust worthy person that i came across your contact and my spiritb directed me to contact you. you should please know that my contact to was divinely directed and i know you will not betray the confidence wjhicvh i reposed on you .
i appreciate your acceptance to work with me and i hope that in the same vain you will use the money to propagate the word of God and build orphanage homes for the motherless and less privileged ones in our society .

my reason of taking this decision to donate this money for the propagation of Gods work is because i have no child to inherit it and my husband family relations are not christians so i decided it will be very unwise to let them have access to the money thus i took this decision knowing fully well that it will be more rewarding to me to use it in the Gods way than letting human being use it and sin against our almighty God .

you should be very honest with me so that with the help of almighty God we will complete this work to the glory and honour of his name ,my request to you is please try your best and make sure we are fast because my condition of health is too bad and the doctor has already told me that i have a little time to live on earth so i would appreciate we finish this project before death will knock on my door .
you should send to me your full name , address and telephone number which i will submit to the security company and introduce you to them as the rightful beneficiary of the box and inform them to go ahead and release to the box to you . i want you to understand that my condition of health has almost exhausted my purse and since you have agreed to work with me i want to look at the gain you stanfd to get for working for God and try your bbest to see that the box is released and delivered to you in your country , please no amount of sacrifice is to much to work for God because i know that his reward is everlasting .
one important thing is this you should please try and maintain the confidentiality of this transaction because with my condition i do not want any problem since i will not like my husband relations to know about it so that they will not kill me before God will call me to rest .

looking forward to hearing from you while i urge you to always remember me in your prayers so that i will be alife and we complete this project to the glory and honour of our lord jesus christ.
God bless you
yours in the lord
Gloria

Uh... okay then... I'm signing the next one "In Reason" Wink

Baiting Guru Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 5905

No they don't and after the first few weeks you don't bother reading their initial Emails either; seen one you've seen them all. I have created some cut and paste templates myself which I use myself through baits to save myself time. I have an opening e-mail template which I use, I cut & paste and just add the name of the deceased, the amount of $$$ left and the percentage they are offering.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:03 pm

When you get into this deeper ask for a death certificate of the husband! Laughing

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:06 pm

I have to admit, tho, I REALLY like the idea of getting these folks to convert to NON-religion! I've had so many be so quick to offer to convert to my "church," even when they've initially sworn their allegiance to Catholicism, only to subsequently fall all over themselves to denounce it so they can join MY church...as long, of course, as I send them the money they want. Wink

I REALLY like the idea of getting them to agree to cast aside religion altogether! That sounds like fun...and has lots of possibilities to bring them further and further down a heathen path. I'm gonna try it...I'll see how it goes.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:15 pm

^^^ Good point! I bet even the religious baiters here don't like the fact that religion is basically slandered in the name of thievery and greed.

Might as well call the lads back to where they really are! Interesting though how he's trying to get her to convert on her death bed when you consider the phrase there are no atheists in fox holes. Laughing

Talk about going against what you really "believe." Shocked

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:26 pm

Well, that's sort of the point. There they are proclaiming all their Godliness, when in fact they are nothing more than criminal slime. All I want to do is get them to reveal just how slimey they really are...and I have no doubt I can get at least a few of them to do it. I've already begun with one...lets see if he bites.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 5

Only catch though, is I need to try and do a graceful exit... wouldn't want to reinforce that awful stereotype that we godless heathens are untrustworthy, eh? Wink

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:57 pm

Mugu GaiPan - the simple problem here is that your lad is not yet off-script.

You need a short and sweet reply something along the lines of:

Quote:

Dear Mrs Peleaz
Please re-read my reply: We do not fund any organizations with ties to religious groups (which includes many private hospitals), or any religious activities.

You might be lucky enough to get one that twigs.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:04 am

Quote:

Arnotte Timtamm

Welcome to another Aussie.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 5

Was wondering how many would get that Wink

Okay, guess I'll need to pound in the message a bit harder on the next mail!

Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:19 am

Keep it short, though not necessarily sweet - and every now and again throw in a 'I don't understand, can you explain that?' It's useful to (i) get them off script a bit and (ii) will really annoy them, once you've sent them the third reply with that in it! Laughing

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