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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:42 pm

Had an idea to make some lads REALLY suffer. Thinking about creating a character who is from a church of snake handlers and obviously if the lad wants money he has to join the church and provide a pic of him handling snakes.

Anyone tried this before because it seems very acheivable to me, but is it going a bit too far? Maybe I should instruct him to only use non lethal snakes for his pictures.

Its nice getting trophies to put up but I'm not sure I want any verified kills in my profile.

*** BANNED *** Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 2021

I,m sure a member is working on a snake modality as we speak but for the life of me i can,t remember who it is.
As for how poisonous the snake should be.....pretty bloody poisonous in my opinion Twisted Evil

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:53 pm

Eliza had a similar idea before. I have heard a couple of other people mention as well, but I have never seen anyone pull it off.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:54 pm

just how deadly are the snakes in Nigeria? Do they have any other particular nasties I should know about? Scorpions, tarantulas etc?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:59 pm

I am sure they have their share of vipers, mambas and such. Enough to have fun. Evil or Very Mad

Master Baiter Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 170

Good modality for a church scammer....

Use Mark 16:18, the passage that refers to picking up deadly snakes and not being harmed........ *grin*

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:55 pm

I would swear that I have seen pictures of someone that has a church here that has handling snakes as their initiation ritual. Send me $500 via MG and I'll tell you who Laughing

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:02 pm

yeah I've seen snake handlers (not up close thankfully) so I know what they get up to. I also know that loads of them die every year from snake bites.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:10 pm

You could set your lad up by giving him a fake recipe for an anti-venom and then tell him to let a snake bite him.
It's not your fault if the cure doesn't work is it?

Failing that, 5 starving pythons should be good for a laugh.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:31 pm

I vote for the black Mamba!

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:27 am

They definitely have praying mantis in Nigeria...but they're not exactly deadly Rolling Eyes

Found this:

"These include the cobras, night and puff adder and water snakes"

From here: http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/T3660E/T3660E04.htm

Puff adders and cobras sound promising...

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:37 pm

I've just had a brainwave.

How about conducting some experiements with hallucinogenic frog licking? Or even deadly snake licking?

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:30 pm

I found this thread

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79608&highlight=snake+church

just use the search thingie up at the top and type in snake & church, you will get quite a list.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:44 pm

For a little background on the real thing check this.

http://www.geocities.com/alanstreett/snakehan.html

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:34 pm

hi whatsthat^^

The idiotic /suicidal ritual of snake-handling---rattlers and copperheads-- is alive and well in the USA primarily in West Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky---in the Bible-Belt communities. I think back to Dan Akroyd as one of 'The Snake-Handling O'Sheas' on SNL in the 70s.

While they are quick to quote the scriptures to take up the handling of serpents, they are oddballs, no reasonably sane person would do what they do. I have yet to hear of Aussies playing around with taipans or death adders in the name of religion..so play up on it if possible.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:43 pm

Lads may be stupid but they are not dumb. Asking them to wrangle their local deadly fauna for a church ceremony is a big ask and I just don't think they will do it. But good luck trying.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:50 pm

Nobody's mentioned this yet, but I think it should be:

If you manage to get a lad stupid enough to try something inherenitly dangerous, it might be a good idea to include a waiver of some sort in the church "documents" that you have him sign.

I don't know what sort of laws they have over there, but I'm pretty sure that if someone dies as a result of you stringing them along here in the colonies, (US), you better bet that you're going to be held accountable for it, unless you can wave a signed peice of paper at the attorneys.

Personally, I wouldn't make them handle poisonous snakes- that's just over the fine line that we walk here in my book.

A big ass python now... that'd be okay. Not much chance of that killing the lad unless the lad is REALLY stupid, and tries to handle it while its hungry, pissed, and on his own. And that'd just be darwinism in action.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:04 pm

I'm personally terrified of snakes, they are so disgusting & nasty Evil or Very Mad

So I'd vote no to any snake modality. But can someone please clarify for me, it's ok to get the lad to do something that could KILL him and maybe others (like the photographer, a little too curious kid if the snake got aggitated or felt threatened) because your lad is not qualified to handle or control the snake in an emergency situation? I'm all for administering a nice mind fuck to the lads, but let the punishment fit the crime. Theft/fraud does not warrant execution. Why don't you have him kiss a cow or a goat or some other domesticated animal to signify his love of all God's creatures...that's uncomfortable & embarrasing but relatively safe. If you must have him handle a snake, at least make it a garden type snake that is not venemous and incapable of killing a human.

Also, if you have the lad handle dangerous, poisonous snakes or any other wild animal for the purpose of your bait & he or someone else ends up getting injured or killed, that is assault, manslaughter and could be interpreted as 1st degree murder given that it would be willfull and premeditated. I think a bait loses it's humor when someone loses their life because of it. Getting someone killed just isn't all that funny IMO. The police would likely not come knocking on your door to arrest you, but you would know. Plus, the animal would probably be destroyed if it attacked, and even though I hate snakes, I don't think one should be killed because its natural instincts kicked in while it was unlucky enough to be used as a prop in a bait. And you might also want to think about the pain you would cause the scammer's mother, children, spouse and other relatives if he was killed by the snake...a mother loves her child no matter what and think of the trauma to his children.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:10 pm

I think this discussion is highly theoretical. I don't see the reason of debating the ethical consequences of sending a lad on a journey to Mars when it's impossible it will ever happen.

thefife wrote:

and could be interpreted as 1st degree murder

No way.

thefife wrote:

they are so disgusting & nasty

The only creature that's evil in the true meaning of the word is man.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:16 pm

I've been around snakes, cattle, horses, feral hogs nearly all my life. The so called domesticated animals are considerably more dangerous than a snake in 90% of the situations you would find them. Dogs have been known to attack and kill grown men and women, so have horses, cows. Any animal is dangerous if not handled with respect and care. I don't want to debated the ethics of it, but just wanted to point out that any animal can kill if it's threatened or injured.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:26 pm

thefife you have convinced me. You are quite right although I too find snakes disgusting and generally terifying it is still an innocent creature. There is no way I would want an innocent creature destroyed for biting a lad, I wouldn't want it on my conscience.

Now how about that Church of the homemade bungee rope modality?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:26 pm

@ Ladykat

Even if you got the lad to sign a waiver document it wouldn't be enforceable since for 1, the baiter wouldn't be giving him full disclosure about the purpose of the snake handling ("This is for my own amusement not because I really have a church that practices snake handling"). No church that practices snake handling as a part of their faith is held liable for injury/death of members handling snakes because it's a part of the religion. In the highly unlikely event that the local police in the lad's country found the baiter and contacted the police where the baiter is to arrest him/her, the waiver document would not protect the baiter against prosecution.

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

This is the kind of discussion that gets critics calling baiters racist bullies.

My take: think of the poor snake who has the misfortune to be handled by some inexperienced person who could twig out and kill or injure it. Please be careful of any stunts involving animals.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:55 pm

My personal view on snakes is the deader the better. However this is a personal view based on the experience of being bitten by my former flatmates pine snake after it escaped and we were trying to coral it back into its tank.

I am an animal lover, but generally only animals with fur.

And definitely not goats!

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

Even goats with big zebra-striped cheeses on their heads?