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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:35 pm

Hi all, I've got my first bait going, and in typical response, he's ignoring my simple questions. I'm afraid I'll lose him. He is insisting I re-read his second e'mail and give up the "goods" (address/tel/fax, etc) right away and is ignoring everything else I ask him.

I keep reminding him how excited I am, and want to do this etc etc but it's not working.

Am waiting for his reply to my "answer my questions" ultimatum.

This scam is moving very quickly, I replied late yesterday, and now, just after lunch, I've recieved four e'mails.

Ps: already signed up to get a mentor.
Long time lurker, first time scam-baiter.

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

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I'm afraid I'll lose him.

No worries there. There are plenty more where he came from.

Welcome to the Eater, Bait safe and have fun.

And speaking of phone numbers, look here.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89401&start=850 Wink

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:50 pm

Thanks Pastor. I've PM'ed VPManchester.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:56 pm

Inna,

Don't panic, slow down. Post or PM me his emails. There will be something in there that we can use to redirect him and get him back on YOUR script instead of on his script. I will read them and get something to you right away.

Always
B. A. Ware

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:10 pm

Welcome Inna:

Just give the mugu all fake informtion on what he wants and continue with the bait Laughing

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:15 pm

~B. A. Ware,

I've pm'ed you the full exchange so far.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:25 pm

~rumbero,

Ha! I've read through all the letters and wonderful work done by the members here, and what can I say....? I panicked. Laughing

I'll be sure to come back to him with the fake info, as well as the number supplied in pastor franks reply...

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:57 pm

Inna,

Got it.

Here is what to do to slow him down. Go ahead and send your (FAKE) name and address. That is enough to keep him happy for a little while.

Mention that you tried to call him on the number he gave you but you just got some guy who was screaming at you about his goat or something. Ask him if the number he gave you is correct. (DON'T verify the number)

Then since he told you twice to keep it confidential, of course you need to tell him that you talked to your brother, sisters boyfriend, priest, and the cashier down at the quickie mart and they all said it sounds like a great opportunity.

When he replies, ignore him for a day or two. By then we will have figured out a way to go with him.

Always,
B.A. Ware

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:06 pm

No point in fully quoting the directly above post - drwho

I've sent VP Manchaster a copy of my most recent e'mail and a scenario for how to handle his call to her if he makes it. Told him that his number was just some older-sounding man who picked up his line and screamed at me for not meeting him at the airport. I'll send you the full e-mail via pm.

Thanks,
Inna

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:25 am

Inna,

Good job. You've slowed him down. More importantly you have calmed down and are thinking instead of reacting. Always remember, You are in charge of the bait.

When he responds, ignore him for a while. come back here and get some advice (there are some real experts here) and then once you are prepared you can make a proper move to throw him off script.

You are doing great and will be a terrific baiter. It just takes some time to learn where to go and when. don't worry, you'll do fine. Remember it's supposed to be fun.

Always,
B. A. Ware

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:03 am

hi inna, welcome aboard--

You have several options in regard to a phone call re: the lads---

1--Tell them you are deaf, therefore no need to have a phone.

2--Tell them you tried calling them @ the # they provided. But you being a dyslexic vistim, you swithched up a few worng #s. They will understand the misteak.. They will immediately tell you your error--good for a few more wasted emails by them.

3--Once the above is straightened out, you then tell them you called several times and got nothing but static or fuzz. With the shoddy infrastructure in W. Africa, they'll comprehend that too. They will then demand you call them..

4--They are in your pocket now. If you are in North America--or claim to be-I can provide many useless phone #s for you for them to call which seem legit but will cost them money--but none to you.

Just PM me for details and I will be happy to assist on the info on above item #4.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:00 pm

Hello - howdy and welcome Inna

Just a thought - if you picked up 5 Lads and your second reply to each of them was something like "Don't you EVER speak to me like that again you rat assed little fecker or I'll stick my boot so far up your ass I'll be able to tie my boot laces through your lips" you'll probably get at least two still replying, if not more.

The only money that exists (so far as they know) is yours, so pushing you around is dumb and it is a wonderful opportunity for you to show who is really in charge. How heavily you slap them is judgement or fun. One of my siggy lines came about when a Lad asked for my phone number. I accused him of having immoral intentions and his reply was brilliant.

You are in charge. If you're busy - make them wait, and make up some stupid excuse. They are your toys, your playthings. You interfere in their lives - not vice versa. I may have to drop a bunch I can't handle right now. That's okay - I'll pick them up again later when I have better time to bring misery into their lives.

They are never so precious you should care about them. I haven't replied to my number 1 Lad for a few days, and my cover story is I am a Russian model held captive by a mobster. It takes a while to remodel a Lads brain, but once done, it's hilarious.

Edit: Oops I forgot I ran out of space in my siggy line and had to remove it Embarassed

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:47 pm

If you really feel the need to give 'em a phone number, one option I like to use is going to the Payphone Directory (Google is your friend) picking a number from a city of choice, and give that out. I usually call it first to ensure that it either rings incessantly or doesn't accept incoming calls.

Then when your lad complains, blame him for screwing it up, calling at the wrong time, etc. Blame your receptionist for being to lazy to answer. Whatever. Make up any old BS excuse and if they complain, let them think they are jeopardizing their chances of getting your money.

My favorite "no phone calls" excuse is that my baiter personas are constantly traveling, and cell phone coverage sucks in whatever place.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:55 pm

Quote:

Don't you EVER speak to me like that again you rat assed little fecker or I'll stick my boot so far up your ass I'll be able to tie my boot laces through your lips"

Sorry GomerPlye but I just gotta steal that one

I almost fell of my fecking chair laughing when I read that

If I make any money from it I promise to share it Wink

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:09 am

Hi Prolix^^

Payphone Directory is indeed a good source for a fake #. The drawback to giving the pay phone # in a strip-joint in Indiana [The KitKat Club, e.g.] or a Kwikee-Mart [StopOh-Mart in Ohio] is that you never know who will actually answer the phone and twig the lads by telling them it is a pay phone.

MY aim is to have the lads keep believing the # is real but just 'on-the-fritz' at the moment via the 'official'-sounding recorded loop. One Lad called me 30x appx and it cost him LD charges every time the recording started--even if he hung up within seconds.

As said, I will happily provide to you or anyone else via PM a list of serviceable #s for serviceable villains. Remember---you're not a crook, they are!

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:06 pm

Thanks to all for making me feel so welcome and providing me with advice and tips. I've pm'ed a few of you.

Here's my latest response to him, now that he has changed his initially supplied number: ( I wonder if he had to tell one of his "partners" to calm down, since I'd indicated that I called (I didn't) and that an old guy screamed at me about not meeting him at the airport?)

Mr. Adam,

I am afraid that if I call you, there will only be another confusing phone call with some older-sounding man screaming at me. Who was this man answering your phone? He was some older sounding man shouting about "meeting him at an airport"?!

I'm afraid I don't appreciate this sort of treatment, Mr. Adam.

If you wish to do business with me, I have to insist that you call me at: 447014219419

I've told my secretary to expect your call, since I think it was only fair to warn her, just in case that screaming man phones us about the airport meeting. She is a good secretary and I don't want her to quit because of any crazy screaming phone calls.

Awaiting your call,

Inna Phiggzaye
Chairman, Research Division
Direct Energy

Waiting for this bait's reply!!

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:13 pm

Hi inna--

PM to you with the info on the way.----JT

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:26 pm

GomerPyle wrote:

...remodel a Lads brain....

Also known as: Basic Woodwork Wink

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:30 pm

Thanks again everyone.

Got the PM, JT.

Am waiting for his reply and will give him some of the supplied numbers...with the $ wasting recorded loops. Since I doubt he will call the UK "dud number" I supplied.

He didn't mention the screaming old man I spoke of either.... *sarcasm on* surprise surprise *sarcasm off*

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:47 pm

Inna^^

Use 1 phony phone # and roll with it, rather than sending several at first--that will twig your lad. A few I cited have the same area code, so you can keep that in your hip pocket and use a secondary one when your lad bitches to you that the original one wasn't any good. The 'new' one you send--same area code--can be your office #, or # your wife doesn't know about while you are involved with a hot # yourself..LOL!

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:41 pm

JT,

I gave him the original number that I first provided to him, and insisted he call that one. I haven't tried other numbers on him yet.

I'll keep the area code tip in mind, when I do need to use that list.

Thanks,
Inna

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:50 am

Inna-^

A key baiting point which I alluded to above--

When baiting a lad as a wealthy married person, [either gender/spouse] it's always good to tell the lad how much you despise and dis-trust your spouse with all those millions of USD on the line..Who gives a ratzass about such mundane things as child custody?

This sets the groundwork for you to accidentally reveal the email of the money-grubbing spouse you are at war with. [2ndary email alias of yours---mailed to the lad by accident].. If the lads key in on that they could contact you and attempt to put a wedge in there..Excellent chance to double-play them.

hope this hint helpz--cheerz jervis

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:52 am

Mods--

Thanx for the upgrade.

As you can see, I have learned from my initial posting mistakes here.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:31 pm

JT,

I'm sticking to the "research" angle on this one, since it's the only plot line in the bait so far. I'm waiting to hear back now that I've insisted he call the UK number for my "secretary".

I'll contact a few members by PM (those in this thread) before I make my next move, once I hear back from my bait.

Thanks,
Inna

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:20 am

I haven't heard from him in over a day. Crying or Very sad

Hopefully I haven't turned him off by asking him to phone me.

I may try one more e-mail tomorrow, demanding to know why he hasn't called!