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jim bowen
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: The house by the tree
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:07 pm |
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First of all I agree that scam baiting is a lot of fun and it wastes scammers time, which is a good thing. But I have to say some of the photos I have seen in the trophy room are pretty extreme.
Its fair to say that scammers are scum, but getting your scammer to have a tatoo on his body for the rest of his life is pretty nasty too. I dont disagree that these guys deserve to be punished, but tatoos with insulting phrases, and even asking the scammers to cut themselves is just lowering yourself.
I am all for wasting their time, or having a bit of fun with getting them to hold funny white boards ect for the trophy room, but I dont think you should go to far, and it seems its heading that way.
Im sure many will disagree with this, but I think it needs to be addressed |
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Luther Blissett
Elite Baiter
Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 1029
Location: Watford, Middle East
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:14 pm |
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Yay! Another ethics thread...
jim bowen wrote: |
Im sure many will disagree with this |
Yup. Somebody with more time at their hands than I currently have will be along shortly to point out why. Additionally, you can also use the "search" function and look at some of the 1001 other ethics of scambaiting threads we had recently... |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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Location: Preaching on behalf of all the oppressed goats
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:15 pm |
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Hi Jim
As a general rule I'd say that we do not force the lads to do anything. If they want to take a tattoo to join our church or whatever, they'll do it. If they want to twig, then they'll twig, but nobody is pointing them with a Luger pistol and saying "You will take the tattoo OR ELSE..."
It is of course different can of worms, if the lads themselves are making some innocent 3rd party to take a tattoo on their behalf. That has also been discussed before.
Personally I don't have problems with tattoos or any other extreme examples, but if you do, that is absolutely fine. Each to his own, as long as it causes ladache, I think. However, I do believe that in the end every baiter is responsible for him/herself and that also includes what that particular baiter makes the lads do to get their non-existant money.
There are things we do not discuss here (illegal things like hacking, or generally unacceptable things like cash baiting), but we simply cannot stop any individual from doing those things, should he/she want to do so and take responsibility for it.
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pwwbear
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Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 349
Location: Out of my mind. Back in 5 minutes.
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:15 pm |
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I have a problem with asking for tattoos, so I don't do it.
Everyone has their own set of limits, and we keep to them. I don't judge what other baiters do, and I don't expect to be judged. |
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GomerPyle
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 8875
Location: Wherever I lay my hat
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:17 pm |
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My argument
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urgent treatement, but I don't have money to pay his hopitalbills or
medication. That's why I ask you to just look at the website I made for
him
to call on all goodhearted people out there that might feel compation
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bombardier
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Joined: 02 Jan 2006
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:17 pm |
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Scam Patroller
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Posts: 11857
Location: UK
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:19 pm |
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Mr Fishe
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2003
Posts: 2242
Location: PL_Goldrush
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:23 pm |
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If you think that asking a lad to tattoo himself is objectionable then don�t do it. If you don�t like to read about scammers getting tattoos then don�t. |
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sagat
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Posts: 106
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:24 pm |
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b4 this gets locks, i have limits as well which i won't cross |
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jim bowen
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: The house by the tree
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:26 pm |
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First of all I am not judging, do what the hell you want. And as for "all these ethic threads" Im new so have not seen them, although its alarming that an individual would be so wary of them, remember if you dont like them dont read them, isnt that kind of like your advice? |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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Location: Preaching on behalf of all the oppressed goats
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:30 pm |
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The point is not to be a fascist dictatorship where these kind of questions should not be discussed. The point is, that same kind of threads pop up all the time and the same persons are giving the same answers over and over again. It would be easier to refer to these previous threads ("Search" is your friend) to get these answers.
Or so I think...
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jim bowen
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: The house by the tree
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:33 pm |
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Yes, but virtually every subject has already been done and all available via search. But newbies will continue to express this opinion because it is a valid one |
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Eliza_Doolittle
"Warned for lad hugging"
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 1979
Location: Contemplating a plan to steal Shiver's cat
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:36 pm |
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No one here says that you have to do anything you don't want to.
Everyone is different - so I'm not going to spend my time arguing about what others do. The goal is to waste scammer's time - and if we sit here and argue, it's wasting our time.
See my post about my disabled friend. He has NO money - no savings - just that disability check each month - and he's suffering - barely getting by - and was going to send this scammer his disability check.
Please continue to read around here - see what the scammers have done to innocent people. And it's hard to get them arrested.
So, Barney, you have two choices....either take the bullet out of your pocket and go in and do something about it.......or sit here and waste your time fighting a fight that's just going to spin you in circles. |
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crossfire
Elite Baiter
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:37 pm |
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I'm with SP... |
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jim bowen
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: The house by the tree
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:40 pm |
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Whoa there Eliza, that thread about your disabled friend, yes I agree the scammer is deserving of baiting treatment. I dont disagree with it, I just think things can go too far. Thats all |
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Mr Fishe
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2003
Posts: 2242
Location: PL_Goldrush
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:41 pm |
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What would you like us to do, Jim? Ban all references to tattoos because you don�t like them? What sort of response were you expecting? Since some people don�t agree with using these modalities and some do, what is wrong with telling you to stick with what you feel comfortable with? |
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sagat
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Posts: 106
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:42 pm |
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The main thing is not too lose sight of the aim of scambaiting; don't let emotions cloud your judgement. |
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Raoul Duke
419Eater is my life
Joined: 31 May 2006
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Location: Bat Country, Kingdom of Fear
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:43 pm |
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crossfire wrote: |
I'm with SP... |
As am I... |
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YeaWhatever
Baiting Guru
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:47 pm |
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Well Jim, if you don't like it, you know where the door is. |
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jim bowen
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: The house by the tree
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:48 pm |
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Have you been listening, I am not trying to dictate anything do what the hell you want, I know that!
I expressed an opinion, my thoughts, thats all. What has shocked me is how uncomfortable that has made a lot of people, why does it bug you so? Have I touched a nerve? |
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Cherrie
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:49 pm |
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