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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

does anyone have the rules to play this version of billiard or whatever it's called? It says snookerbilliard but I thought that's without pins. Google or Wiki don't help a lot...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That's bar billiards, you will find out plenty about it here:

http://www.mastersgames.com/rules/bar-billiards-rules.htm

And a Google link to bar billiards:

http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=bar+billiards&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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Actually, I don't think that's a traditional bar billiards table, although very similar in design, it might be that game they play in Belgium, saw some tables like that on a Belgium film once?

If you email this bloke jm AT tradgames.org.uk (remove spaces and replace AT with @) and send him the photo of the table, he will probably be able to tell you exactly what it is.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've heard it called bumper pool but haven't seen a table in years and years

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Bumper pool
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Bumper pool is a casual billiards game played on an octagonal or rectangular table with one pocket centered on each end. Most tables have 12 bumpers, although some tables have 14. Two bumpers surround each pocket with the other eight arranged on the table's midlines leaving a center space just large enough for a ball to pass through. Tables with 14 bumpers have three rather than two bumpers on each side of the center space on the line midway between the two holes. The game is played with 5 red and 5 white balls, with one marked ball in each set. The game may be played in a much smaller room than most billiards games because the tables are much smaller. This type of billiards is mostly played in France.


Gameplay
At the beginning of the game each set of balls is arranged on 5 spots near each edge of the table by a pocket with the marked ball placed directly in front of the pocket. To start the game both players simultaneously shoot their marked ball attempting to sink the ball in the pocket at the other end of the table. The shooter must achieve this by banking the ball off the cushion (edge of the table) to his right. After this initial shot players alternate (the player whose first shot ends up nearest the pocket shoots first). If both players sink their first shot they each select another ball, place it directly in front of the pocket, and repeat the simultaneous shot. If all five balls are simultaneously sunk in this fashion the game is a draw. The object is to sink all your balls into the pocket at the opposite end of the table. Unlike many other billiard games, there is no designated cue ball; each ball can be directly shot into the pocket. A player's marked ball must be sunk before the player can shoot any other balls. A player's turn continues until no ball is sunk.


Fouls
If a player sinks one of the opponent's balls there is no penalty. However, the ball is considered sunk regardless of which pocket it drops in. If a player sinks one of his own balls (but not the last) in the wrong pocket, the opponent may drop two balls into his pocket. Sinking your last ball in the wrong pocket results in a forfeit. A ball that leaves the table is placed anywhere on the table by the opponent, usually in the middle space surrounded by bumpers.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Bud, that seems to be the thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Gee Wokabo, you claim to come from the country with the best beer in the world??? and you don't know this game???
Obviously you don't come from Belgium then....(which incidentally has the best beers in the world...)
Lots of pubs have this billiards game : over here it's called 'toppenbilliard'
Nothing to do with snooker though : smaller table, bigger balls (eh !).
The object of the game is to pot your balls in the opposite pocket. Whoever clear his balls first wins (please spare me the puns....)
The 'bumpers' or 'toppen' in the middle can be used to nudge your opponent's ball behind to prevent him/her to get a clear shot.. etc etc..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The rules?

1. Holding the thin end, swing the cue in a circular motion (like a baseball bat) across the table top and knock those stupid mushroomy thingies off. You may take repeated swings. Just get those fuckers off. Try not to tear the cloth while doing so.

2. Using dry beer mats, cover those dumbass holes at the ends.

3. Take a jigsaw and cut semicircle holes in the corners and one along each long side.

4. Now proceed playing according to the rules we all know and love. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Take two balls and place them in long woolen sock.

Swing sock into the side of your lad's head, saying "who's the daddy now?"

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Okay, okay.. This is what we call "bumper pool" (at least in the usa). I use to play when I was young at the boys and girls club, but have long forgotten, I probably played wrong back when I was young.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Now that brings back some memories. Spent most of my time between age 13 and 16 playing snooker & poole when I should have been in school. Used to play in the Italian district of the city in a place called the "Miramare Club". (Probably means something in Italian but I never knew what, only that I shouldn't have been in there.) They only had one table like that, and yeah, bumper pool is what we called it. However, the term "snookerbilliard" would be equally correct, if in a different language, as part of the playing strategy is to snooker your opponent using the bumpers (the mushroom thingys). It's not an overly popular game here (Aus), rarely see it these days.

Never played bar billiards, which is a different game. Never even seen a table in any of my haunts. I did see a game played where money was piled up in the centre of the table while playing a normal game of billiards. More money was added for each shot, and if a player knocked over the money stack with any of the (3) balls the other player got the cash.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

eamonn wrote:
Take two balls and place them in long woolen sock.

Swing sock into the side of your lad's head, saying "who's the daddy now?"



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Swing sock into the side of your lad's head, saying "who's the daddy now?"


That was an amazing film that. Borstal sucks by the look of things.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is just a soccer game on a pool table. The object of the game is to get a gooooooooool Laughing

Never played that game before.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Bobo419 wrote:
Gee Wokabo, you claim to come from the country with the best beer in the world??? and you don't know this game???
Obviously you don't come from Belgium then....(which incidentally has the best beers in the world...)(...)


Bobo, of course I've seen this thing before, but I never played it, and I needed the rules because I'm going away on a weekend and the place where we're going has a bumper pool table.

Must remember to pack an extra sock. [EDIT] And beer.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This is a bar billiard table

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
That's the one I know, too. Loss of privileges if you foul a mushroom.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love bar billiards. You don't see many around in pubs these days. Sad

Have not ever seen that table in the op photo though.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OK, I'm back from the weekend, Bumper pool is fun! But I'm really crap at it.

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